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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
Alright I'm gonna go with that and make a copy of the project using mp3s instead of wav.

Just out of interest - why are you doing this, exactly?


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ponsshin
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quote:
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Just out of interest - why are you doing this, exactly?

I'm trying to save some CPU. Might not work but at this stage I'm willing to try anything.

edit: I'm also trying to save my motherboard from overheating too.


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
I'm trying to save some CPU. Might not work but at this stage I'm willing to try anything.

edit: I'm also trying to save my motherboard from overheating too.

Uhm... okay. I don't really see how it would make any difference but... ehh...


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ponsshin
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Uhm... okay. I don't really see how it would make any difference but... ehh...


Handling lighter, more compressed files could result in less calculations for the computer. My RAM is also maxed out.

Photoshop applies filters much more rapidly on small pictures so I'm guessing Ableton could run smoother with compressed files.


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Cryogen
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quote:
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Photoshop applies filters much more rapidly on small pictures so I'm guessing Ableton could run smoother with compressed files.


No because Ableton has to waste power decoding the MP3 then storing the file in the cache. You actually end up with less space because you have the WAV and the MP3.


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mfitterer1
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quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
Handling lighter, more compressed files could result in less calculations for the computer. My RAM is also maxed out.

Photoshop applies filters much more rapidly on small pictures so I'm guessing Ableton could run smoother with compressed files.


The cpu is taken up by all of the reverbs and efx. All of the tracks that are heaviest on my cpu are the ones with the most plug ins running. The samples have essentially no effect on the project because it's an audio file there is no processing to be done, when the cpu goes to it for info all it has to do is play.

On the other hand itb reverbs/delays and other efx take a ton of processing power because of all the algorithms that are instantaneously calculated to get their function to occur.

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RichieV
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surely using mp3s will require more cpu. The DAW will probably convert to wav then use that converted file.

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owien
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of course a good way around this problem will be to work in two halfs.
the first would be to lay down all of ya samples and parts arrangement ect. then when you feal happy with it start adding fx and any synths plugins you care to need.


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quote:
Originally posted by ponsshin
Handling lighter, more compressed files could result in less calculations for the computer. My RAM is also maxed out.

Photoshop applies filters much more rapidly on small pictures so I'm guessing Ableton could run smoother with compressed files.


But it wont
cos its using wav files - not mp3

Also its worrying if just playing audio tracks is causing your pc to stutter - have you added fx at this stage yet?

What sort of spec are you running?


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DigiNut
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Wow, this thread is a giant WTF.


Even IF Ableton could directly sequence MP3s - and it can't - it would actually waste more CPU cycles because of the decoding overhead.

The real question here is, if your original files were 32 kbps MP3s, why the hell did you convert them to 32-bit wave files? You should go back to the samples and decode them to 16-bit waves, because that's the maximum quality you can get out of an MP3.

Either way it's very unlikely to help if your problem is CPU-related. It would only make a difference if you've got tons of samples loaded and you're running out of (a) memory or (b) I/O bandwidth.


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Yeah, you do realise that ableton converts any 320 MP3s to wav before commencing work on them right?

+ Everything diginut said.

RTFM


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