I think having the fact that most home users are only running a single PC makes a difference. Formatting one PC which takes 2 hours is ok, but formatting 4 which takes two hours exponentially increases downtime.

The price you pay for this supposed stability is lack of performance though, so I'm skeptical as to whether its worth it for home users given the current discrepancy - by which I mean core2duo vs Core i7.

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Originally posted by Stef 1) After knowing those programs, how is the learning curve for logic? 2) Seeing as I've bought a decent amount of VSTi and VST at this point, is there any way to transfer them to the AU format? Or are the included synths and effects more than sufficient? 3)How stable and overall workable is the Rewire function in logic 9 with reason?

1) Logic isn't the easiest program to master but it will make things a whole lot easier if you buy the 2 training manuals. They contain step by step tutorials on most of the major functions and it shows you how to do stuff you just wouldn't dream of doing just sitting their playing with things. Highly Recommended.

2) Your VSTs will not work in Logic. Logic is AU only and even if it wasn't or you used a VST Wrapper a Mac VST is different to a PC VST. If you purchased them I would assume technical support would be able to provide you with Mac AU equivalents. I don't use many of the bundled synths and effects but they're still very usable. You could make great music with them for sure.

3) Never tried it but I would say it works fine, never seen anyone complaining about it. Once you learn Logic though you might find you won't want or need Reason any more. I see a lot of threads about rewiring Reason so they can use Redrum but Ultrabeat dicks all over it.

Mobile i7 chips aren't too far away now, I'd wait and get one of those

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i bought 13" macbook pro this summer and im happy. also trying to learn logic express 8 but it goes slow. Reason works great on here. Also the new Record works great and so does ableton, all very stabile. Only iTunes and Quicktime has crashed on me, rest is working as a charm. Now that Leopard Snow OS came out iTunes and Quicktime is also alot more stabile. Some things are really annoying in OSX but not as much as Windows (omg i hate windows, i just want to drop a nuke on bill gates, he is the devil himself). After all the bitching i went throw on a PC its really fucking nice to finaly be able to consentrate on the music (or the webbrowsing, or whatever i wanna do) instead of using all my time fixing up, backing up, reinnstalling Windows. When it comes to Logic its really to early for me to say anything. It seems massively overdone, but so does all other daws ive ever tried except Reason.

What would be fucking cool would be to develop my own OS/DAW/Sequencer (all-in-one). This is something ive been really thinking alot about lately, it cant be that fucking hard right?

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Originally posted by palm i bought 13" macbook pro this summer...Only iTunes and Quicktime has crashed on me,...

That's pretty ironic.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's pretty ironic.

lol, good call. :P

i switched from cubase sx 3 to logic 8 and found the change over very easy plus the logic built in instruments are top quality. id never change back to cubase.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's pretty ironic.

yeah i know. part of the reason why im really sceptical to be totaly into Logic, and was a real sceptic to the whole mac thing in the start. but things is getting better, and im starting to like even iTunes hehe. theres a few weird things on a mac which i would totaly change emidiately but luckely it doesnt affect performance.

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Originally posted by palm yeah i know. part of the reason why im really sceptical to be totaly into Logic, and was a real sceptic to the whole mac thing in the start. but things is getting better, and im starting to like even iTunes hehe. theres a few weird things on a mac which i would totaly change emidiately but luckely it doesnt affect performance.

You should get Bill Gates to pay you a boatload of money to be their new poster boy. Imagine the ad:

"Hi, I'm a Mac and even my own company's products are incompatible with me. So, buy a PC. They just work (with Windows Media Player and other MS apps)."

Remember, you don't have to believe it, just sell it.

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problem is that windows is even more shitty solutions, and then all the linux solutions are just wow, is it possible to make something this shitty, 10 times more shit than windows? im not apple-fan-boy lol, i hate big companys in general and all but when theres only two options i go with the one that works fastest for me without any trouble. and the design is awesome. would love to make my own daw though (both hardware and software). my dreamlaptop would have internal soundcard with 4 balanced jacks and one stereo jack for headphone, all 6mm. jesus would that be great.

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Originally posted by palm l, i hate big companys in general .

you do realise every piece of equipment you own comes from a big company whether it be the end product of the circuit boards in them .

probably why i hate almost everything i have and exists on the market except some small-company hifi-solutions. tvs? sucks as, wheres the 11mm led tvs?. playstation3? what a peace of big and noisy junk (not even back-compatible). my car should be running on solarpower and be flying now, its 2010 damnit. economy and big business seems to hold back on technology as long as they earn money on shit. cell phones? geesus... hardware synths? terrible. i like my macbook and my stereo though and thats about it. but why the hell arent laptops equipped with better soundcards? like atleast RCA plugs and a a budget CD player DAC? cant cost that much? I hate external soundcards.

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Originally posted by sterilis i switched from cubase sx 3 to logic 8 and found the change over very easy plus the logic built in instruments are top quality. id never change back to cubase.

Hey bro do you mind if i ask you a few more questions about specifically, like PM or AIM or MSN?