From a sound perspective I think it is important to listen even if not agree to what he has to say, I have heard some issues around sound quality by using ITB stuff like EQ's.

Freemasons in a Futuremusic masterclass video talked about smearing of sound being introduced by the onboard Logic EQ and how they felt it was due to poor quality algorithms. It is extremely likely that minor issues like this in Ableton can build up and affect the sound you hear.

Someone posted an interview with Steve Bug recently where he didnt rate the sound of mp3s highly, we all know the conversion process loses information but when you load an mp3 into Ableton it automatically converts it to .wav format, could it be possible that this introduced further noise/artifacts (I use the term in the loose sense), esp when combined with choosing the wrong warp algorithm.

From what I see it seems that Ableton is making some inroads into overtaking CDJs for playing techno music in clubs. And obviously mp3s are getting bigger and bigger as the main method for people to obtain their music. So could it be that what is happening today is that all this technology is being road-tested and yet to meet all our needs soundwise?

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There's a lot more shite out there but on the flipside it's much quicker and easier to sift through it all. On Trackitdown there's usually a few pages of releases per day in the Uplifting Trance section. Click the button that says play all on this page and you can breeze through the lot in a few minutes. I might only buy 2-3 of them but that still adds up to a lot of quality music throughout the year.

Being able to produce In The Box has opened up producing to a lot of people who wouldn't otherwise have been able to. Hardware used to require a sizeable investment but it's much cheaper these days. This does lead to a lot of shit being released but also more well produced tracks. Not everyone is in a mad rush to release any old shit just become the next Tiesto.

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Originally posted by flutlicht junky From a sound perspective I think it is important to listen even if not agree to what he has to say, I have heard some issues around sound quality by using ITB stuff like EQ's. Freemasons in a Futuremusic masterclass video talked about smearing of sound being introduced by the onboard Logic EQ and how they felt it was due to poor quality algorithms. It is extremely likely that minor issues like this in Ableton can build up and affect the sound you hear. Someone posted an interview with Steve Bug recently where he didnt rate the sound of mp3s highly, we all know the conversion process loses information but when you load an mp3 into Ableton it automatically converts it to .wav format, could it be possible that this introduced further noise/artifacts (I use the term in the loose sense), esp when combined with choosing the wrong warp algorithm. From what I see it seems that Ableton is making some inroads into overtaking CDJs for playing techno music in clubs. And obviously mp3s are getting bigger and bigger as the main method for people to obtain their music. So could it be that what is happening today is that all this technology is being road-tested and yet to meet all our needs soundwise?

Well, I don't think that anyone much assumes that included EQs are much good. Ableton especially has a bad reputation for included plugins. But Assuming you use a decent third party selection of tools, like EQ, comp and synths, I think you can get excellent quality out of ableton, or any other DAW.

I seriously doubt that converting an MP3 to wav makes any difference to its quality, the only reason this is done is to decrease processor load while playing live and eliminate dropouts. picking the wrong warping algorithm is a big problem, and yes even complex warp mode had its disadvantages, and was quite grainy a lot of the time, even with only slight speed/pitch increases. This is largely fixed in Live 8 with the new algorithms.

Theres no real reason why ableton can't equal or exceed the performance of CDJs in terms of quality, plus it allows better beat matching than most DJs can manage, more effects, mixing in key, awsome needle drops, on the fly editing, integration of drum machines, synths and samples, awesome sampling, superior looping, general sound mangling... The list is endless. CDJs are very romantic, but I really think that ableton results in a better performance in almost every way.

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