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Originally posted by palm get a PC and use all your time thinking about making music instead of getting anything done.

I know you're half-joking, but in all honesty, my PC has never gotten in the way of making music or doing anything else and runs very stable. I'm one of the few people I know that actually found Vista more stable and usable than XP, and based on my few weeks experience with W7, things are looking even better.

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I'll be migrating over to 7 at some point within the month, but I'm thinking about buying another internal drive first.

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Using Windows 7 x64 Ultimate.
Works great.

See this thread (10th post down) (full disclosure: it's e-penis waving):
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Originally posted by wrzonance Using Windows 7 x64 Ultimate. Works great. See this thread (10th post down) (full disclosure: it's e-penis waving): http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...postid=10069802

Yeah, I remember seeing those photos and wondering to myself what your electricity bill runs!

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Originally posted by cryophonik Yeah, I remember seeing those photos and wondering to myself what your electricity bill runs!

120$ a month. My media server (including samples, project backups, etc) runs 24/7.

I can't imagine what my bill would be like if I ran that beast 24/7!!!

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Originally posted by wrzonance I can't imagine what my bill would be like if I ran that beast 24/7!!!

Probably not that much. It may be powerful equipment but if it spends most of its time idling, it's not going to use more than about 150 W. 250 W would be worrying. Only if you're playing games and really straining the capacity would it go anywhere near what the PSU is capable of putting out.

My guess is an extra $10 - $15 per month depending on the electricity rates.

I'm more concerned about all those fans. Seems kinda noisy for a production PC. I built mine completely passively cooled (including the mobo and VGA) except for one 120mm at the back. Never regretted that decision, and infuriatingly was also never able to get my HTPC as quiet because of the stupid 80mm fans.

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As for this ludicrous Mac vs. Windows debate about how easy/hard it is to install software, consider what's replacing the Windows registry on a Mac: plists, which are fundamentally equivalent to .ini files, which were done away with as far back as Windows 95 for good reason. Plus there's the whole Launch Services Database which I've been told has to be periodically rebuilt.

None of this makes Windows superior - installs are certainly more convenient on the Mac - but it's nowhere near the slam-dunk that the fanatics here are making it out to be. You're trading a lot for that minor convenience, and most people spend less than 0.01% of their computing time installing software.

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Originally posted by DigiNut None of this makes Windows superior - installs are certainly more convenient on the Mac - but it's nowhere near the slam-dunk that the fanatics here are making it out to be. You're trading a lot for that minor convenience, and most people spend less than 0.01% of their computing time installing software.

I disagree

I had to reinstall windows every 6 months and the reinstall process took 3 days. Win my mac , it takes 1 hour max. PErhaps you speak like everyone has your knowledge but most don't and for most , windows reinstall process is a nightmare. And nobody is being fanatical. I've used both systems and still use both extensively. It is just a truth that the windows registry is a nightmare if you don't have a computer science degree.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I'm more concerned about all those fans. Seems kinda noisy for a production PC.

Yeah. Down the road I'll be getting a larger radiator and water cooling just about everything. Larger radiator, larger fans, lower RPM, quieter.

Right now (as you can see from pics) it's pretty hodge-podge. The nice thing is there isn't a single 80mm fan in there... worthless fans they are.

For audio production I usually shove the elements I'm recording into another room, I have plenty of inputs and outputs for a proper headphone talk-back system and vocals/guitar. So it's easy to snake some XLR cables and put people in my recording *cough* kids room.

Believe it or not, but when the fans are stepped down, it's a pretty quiet machine. And with my nice closed-back headphones the computer becomes inaudible.

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Originally posted by RichieV It is just a truth that the windows registry is a nightmare if you don't have a computer science degree.

For usability, yes. But as I thought I just explained, that's not the only concern when dealing with critical application data. Apple can get away with it because of the relatively small body of applications and users - similar penetration to Windows 3.1, which used a similar approach.

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ur comparing osx and win3.1? lol ok, think its time to let this one dead. discussion is pointless at this point.

I won't be upgrading as my music only pc is running fine with xp (I only recently bought the pc and I deliberately specified xp over vista). Just not enough time and also I'm a big believer in sticking with something as long as you are happy with it.

A lot of pro's still use really old versions of logic and cubase for the same reason.

I don't get enough time with my children as it is!
NASA still use many an ancient programme as all the bugs are ironed out and those things work trouble free, so no need to upgrage.

Hey my mate advertised an old tascam digital recorder / mixer and it sold straight away for £250 - the buyer said he was ditching a DAW altogether!

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