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recoil
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Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne

i love a good set progression, but once im drunk & hear filler, im off to the bar to wipe all the sweat off & load up on booze & scope the room for potential wifes to be...

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DJ_Rafnel
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A lot of times the crowd wants a filler if its a long set. I know if im going to see someone awesome, i am always afraid of missing awesome tunes for a bathroom or bar break. So its good to know that your gonna have some fillers here and there.


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recoil
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Registered: Aug 2009
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YEA, at which point i raise my elbows & run back to the front of the dance floor screaming & nailing every **** in my way right in their fuken head!

THIS IS MY FLOOR!!!

Old Post Nov-10-2009 01:36  Australia
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quote:
Originally posted by recoil
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YEA, at which point i raise my elbows & run back to the front of the dance floor screaming & nailing every **** in my way right in their fuken head!

THIS IS MY FLOOR!!!


Like a true Aussie, no doubt wearing some form of fluoro clothing, most likely a wife beater.

Zinggg...

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Apeattack
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Registered: Dec 2008
Location: OC, CA

quote:
Originally posted by palm
most djs go 5% up during a 2hour set (example 130-136).
just dont do it all on one song it will sound ass.
theres no rule though but as stated earlier i would never go down, remember your trying to build to a crescendo.


I'm very new at mixing and this may seem like a very simple/silly question...

Say you want your set to stay in the range of 130-136 bpm, do you only select songs that are in that bpm range? Do you ever adjust the tempo of a song that is outside of this range to fit it into the 130-136 range?

For example, if you really like a song that is 138 bpm, would you slow it down to 136 to fit it into your desired range? Or would you simply not use the song?


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jimji1005
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: Tokyo, Japan

Thing is I have seen that most DJ prep their set right? so they have the choons all planned out already. But me on the other hand still learning so to practice more beatmatching and mixing, I am just throwing up whatever CD there is and try to get it to connect.

One bad thing is that I suck at remembering the names of songs. I can be staring at a CD for 5 minutes and not remember how it sound like, but the second i hear it i remember...anyone have any advice on that? lol


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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
I'm very new at mixing and this may seem like a very simple/silly question...

Say you want your set to stay in the range of 130-136 bpm, do you only select songs that are in that bpm range? Do you ever adjust the tempo of a song that is outside of this range to fit it into the 130-136 range?

For example, if you really like a song that is 138 bpm, would you slow it down to 136 to fit it into your desired range? Or would you simply not use the song?


Of course. I've pitched songs up or down 7% at times, but not all tracks sound good after doing this. What setup are you using?


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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by manatsu
Thing is I have seen that most DJ prep their set right? so they have the choons all planned out already. But me on the other hand still learning so to practice more beatmatching and mixing, I am just throwing up whatever CD there is and try to get it to connect.

One bad thing is that I suck at remembering the names of songs. I can be staring at a CD for 5 minutes and not remember how it sound like, but the second i hear it i remember...anyone have any advice on that? lol


Not as much as you would think. Basic "prepping" of a set usually involves selecting 40 or 50 tracks that you know work well together and want to play. After practice this becomes second nature.


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DJ_Rafnel
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Honestly,

First rule:

There are no rules.

As cheesy as it sounds. Just do what you think sounds good.


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Apeattack
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Registered: Dec 2008
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Of course. I've pitched songs up or down 7% at times, but not all tracks sound good after doing this. What setup are you using?


haha... my question was more general in nature. I haven't even gotten a 'setup' yet.

I'm planning on getting the Numark OMNI Control soon. See this recent thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=543555&forumid=8&s=


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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by recoil
From experience so far:
Dont mix a 136BPM track down to 130. It will sound too slow.
Dont mix a 125BPM track up to 130. It will sound too busy.

Fair enough if that's how you prefer to work from your own experience, but I personally wouldn't set any rules like that - it depends on the track.

A track with the right groove can often work quite a lot slower and a track with sharp enough sounds (i.e. fast attacks) can work quite a lot faster. I regularly play 125 BPM tunes as fast as 132-135, going the other way is less common but I have in the past slowed tracks down by 6% or more (and the general consensus has been that it worked!)

I would generally say that unless you really know how to make it work, slowing your set down can really kill the energy, where as speeding up can give more energy. It generally works best done gradually still, but of course there are exceptions.


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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
haha... my question was more general in nature. I haven't even gotten a 'setup' yet.

I'm planning on getting the Numark OMNI Control soon. See this recent thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...55&forumid=8&s=


Oh OK. Was just asking because if you plan on using Traktor, then there's a function that keeps the track in the same key regardless of how much you speed it up or down. CDJs have the same function but it doesn't work as well as it does on Traktor.

What it does, basically, is prevent vocals from sounding like chimpmunks if you speed the track up or like Frankenstein if you slow it down. Of course, it doesn't affect only the vocals but you get the point.


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