its not a mixer you need dude as has been explained

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So do I have to get an audio interface to do what I want?

if you dont already have one you will yes

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don't some mixers have audio interfaces built right into the mixer itself? i believe the m-audio nrv-10 does this.

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Originally posted by Ravist don't some mixers have audio interfaces built right into the mixer itself? i believe the m-audio nrv-10 does this.

Yes, the Mackie that you linked to earlier does, as do some of the Yamahas and Rolands. If you are on Cubase, I'd suggest looking at some of the Yamahas, because they integrate with Cubase; same goes for Roland/Sonar. Although they might be out of your price range. I'm not familiar with the M-Audio, but it looks like it also does. M-Audio quality is a far cry from Soundcraft though.

I still don't think that you're comprehending the difference between how an analog mixing console (e.g., the Soundcraft) boards differ from an integrated mixing interface (e.g., the Mackie that you linked, or the Yamahas and Roland that I mentioned), or from the control surfaces that Ry Thomas mentioned, but I think it's safe to assume that you don't want a dedicated analog console like the Soundcraft. This is why I suggested that you do more research.

"In the box" means that you do your mixing in the software environment, rather than in an external hardware environment. It's pretty important that you understand the difference before deciding which route to go. If all you want is to push the sliders on the hardware and see the sliders move in your DAW, then you probably just need a control surface, such as the ones Ry mentioned. An analog console like the Soundcraft is not going to do that - it will only control the levels going into your soundcard, not offer any control over your software. The Mackie, M-Audio, etc. is basically the same thing as a control surface, but with an integrated soundcard.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Yes, the Mackie that you linked to earlier does, as do some of the Yamahas and Rolands. If you are on Cubase, I'd suggest looking at some of the Yamahas, because they integrate with Cubase; same goes for Roland/Sonar. Although they might be out of your price range. I'm not familiar with the M-Audio, but it looks like it also does. M-Audio quality is a far cry from Soundcraft though. I still don't think that you're comprehending the difference between how an analog mixing console (e.g., the Soundcraft) boards differ from an integrated mixing interface (e.g., the Mackie that you linked, or the Yamahas and Roland that I mentioned), or from the control surfaces that Ry Thomas mentioned, but I think it's safe to assume that you don't want a dedicated analog console like the Soundcraft. This is why I suggested that you do more research. "In the box" means that you do your mixing in the software environment, rather than in an external hardware environment. It's pretty important that you understand the difference before deciding which route to go. If all you want is to push the sliders on the hardware and see the sliders move in your DAW, then you probably just need a control surface, such as the ones Ry mentioned. An analog console like the Soundcraft is not going to do that - it will only control the levels going into your soundcard, not offer any control over your software. The Mackie, M-Audio, etc. is basically the same thing as a control surface, but with an integrated soundcard.

Thank you so much for the clarification, I definitely understand the difference and will probably go with the mackie mixer.

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Originally posted by Ravist I'll explain again, I want an external mixer for the little studio I am building because I don't want to depend on the DAW to mix, I would rather have something physical because I think it makes mixing more interesting and I really don't like using a mouse to set my frequency ranges.

Faders have nothing to do with frequency ranges, and I pity you if you're going to try EQing with only the mixer.

I strongly recommend you buy a DAW, maybe a soundcard and make some tracks before you decide what you think you need.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Faders have nothing to do with frequency ranges, and I pity you if you're going to try EQing with only the mixer. I strongly recommend you buy a DAW, maybe a soundcard and make some tracks before you decide what you think you need.

I already have reason and have been working on a track, that is why I made the thread. I just didn't understand the difference between a mixing console and a control interface.