quote:

Originally posted by RichieV Synth1.mp3 - 0.29MB made something quick to show you all those chords in a simple progression dim7 half diminished neapolitan 6 phrygian cadence augmented chord dominant 7 minor major all those chords are in this simple progression

I think it sounds pretty cool - you should finish it and submit it to the TA album!

___________________
cryophonik.com | facebook | soundcloud

Sonar Platinum | Ableton Live 9 | Logic Pro X | Access Virus TI2 Keyboard | Kurzweil PC3X | Nord Lead 4R | NI Maschine

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV Synth1.mp3 - 0.29MB

Sounds like a progression Muse would use, I love it.

But here is the challenge: Can someone of you make an uplifting progression/harmony/melody that is not clearly sad or happy AND uses off key notes and perhaps other than standard major/minor chords?

quote:

Originally posted by offensive_newbi But here is the challenge: Can someone of you make an uplifting progression/harmony/melody that is not clearly sad or happy AND uses off key notes and perhaps other than standard major/minor chords?

Why would you want your music to NOT convey some emotion?

___________________
cryophonik.com | facebook | soundcloud

Sonar Platinum | Ableton Live 9 | Logic Pro X | Access Virus TI2 Keyboard | Kurzweil PC3X | Nord Lead 4R | NI Maschine

quote:

Originally posted by cryophonik Why would you want your music to NOT convey some emotion?

But uplifting emotion?

define uplifting

anyways, the answer is yes to all your questions. Yes you can use these chords and yes they are used. The line i made was on the spot to show all of the mentioned chords packed into one line. The point wasn't to create the best melody, in fact there really isn't a melody, but to work in all those chords people don't seem to think work in trance into a workable progression in the trance idiom.





here is a link to a tutorial I posted but nobody seemed to care so I just stopped

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=525446


this one is uplifting and has diminished chords and modal mixture.

uplifting with diminished chords

Last edited by RichieV on Dec-10-2009 at 19:34

quote:

Originally posted by offensive_newbi But uplifting emotion?

If you used it to build tension that resolves into a major chord, probably. But there's probably better ways of doing that than using diminished chords.

quote:

Originally posted by RichieV define uplifting

i'll return that a bit later!

quote:

here is a link to a tutorial I posted but nobody seemed to care so I just stopped http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=525446 this one is uplifting and has diminished chords and modal mixture. uplifting with diminished chords

For some reason I have completely missed that thread. Maybe it was because of summer but I would definitely hear more. And those would be easier to read if they were in cmaj/amin uh sorry for my laziness but still!

quote:

Originally posted by offensive_newbi But uplifting emotion?

One diminished chord does not immediately make the entire track dark and brooding. The point of diminished and other dissonant chords is to resolve.

Diminished chords are used all the time. In trance, in progressive, in whatever. Listen to any Christopher Lawrence mix circa, I don't know, 2004 or earlier, and you'll hear a few hundred of them.

If they've become less common over the years it's probably because of the proliferation of cookie-cutter music from producers who know nothing about composition and just copy their favourite tracks. Obviously they are "harder" to use correctly than simple major/minor chord combinations and therefore many producers just don't bother.

___________________
My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

quote:

Originally posted by DigiNut Diminished chords are used all the time. In trance, in progressive, in whatever. Listen to any Christopher Lawrence mix circa, I don't know, 2004 or earlier, and you'll hear a few hundred of them.

Could you give a concrete example of that ?

___________________


http://soundcloud.com/subtara

quote:

Originally posted by Subtle Could you give a concrete example of that ?

Well it'd be hard to produce a "recent" example in the trance genre since I haven't accumulated any of it since about 2004, but if that's not a concern then sure, let me know and I'll dive in.

___________________
My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here