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Zak McKracken
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I have Echo Audiofire 4, and I love the sound from it, the drivers are awesome. Had Audiofire 12 before too and that one was awesome too, just that i didnt need it anymore as i sold all my hardware. I had some incidents with FireWire on Echo Audiofire 2 (had that one too) which made me upgrade to 4 (Audiofire 2 doesnt have a powerbutton). Because of this, and that not all laptops have firewire, im not sure i believe in firewire anymore so im thinking about replacing to RME Fireface UC (http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php) if the Audiofire blows someday. By that day i might want some more inputs/outputs though so i might ending up with a 19" device again. I dont really have any problems with a little bigger devices. Right now my laptop has firewire but i really dont want to limit myself to that in the future.

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wrzonance
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Location: Seattle, WA

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Damn I hope that never happens to me. I've done that at least a hundred times with my ultralite no fried chips.


Yeah, I think Palm is knee-jerking.

Dude, just because one fucknut had his world end when he unplugged his Mk3 doesn't mean you will.

I have 3 MOTU firewire interfaces, and they all work except one.

But i'm pretty sure it's my fault, I lived in a room with high humidity and I think i fucked up the preamps on my 828 MkII


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by wrzonance
Yeah, I think Palm is knee-jerking.

lol what?

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wrzonance
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LOL! Sorry palm... that whole language barrier.

If you're selling your Mk3 just because you're afraid it will fry your system, I call that a knee-jerk reaction.

Or jumping to conclusions and reacting too quickly.

Etc.

LOL... no... I don't think your masturbating with your knee :P


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hexadecimal
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Originally posted by DJ RANN And hell yes, the ULN-2 is amazing but $2k+ for 4in / 6out?

No.

~$1,700 (or more with the transformer option) for a hell of a lot more than that.

From the Metric Halo site:

2 Mic/Line/Instrument analog inputs on Neutrik Combo connectors
Balanced TRS analog sends and returns for analog inputs
2 analog outputs on balanced TRS connectors
24bit/96k converters on all channels
Headphone amp with front panel volume knob
Balanced stereo master control room monitor output with front panel volume control
AES-S/PDIF Digital I/O with selectable SRC
8 channels all new ADAT I/O with switchable TOSLINK support
v.5 Configurable mixer for near-zero latency mixing and routing
Metric Halo’s unique instantiable +DSP processing
4-pin XLR power port for compatibility with most location battery systems
10 front panel preset system/routing memories for stand-alone operation
FireWire Connectivity
Compact, light, and bus-powerable
Total recall with MIO Console
OS X drivers with multi-box support


The preamps in the ULN-2 are great. You'd have a difficult time finding a 2-channel stand-alone preamp that matches them for under $2k. Add everything else listed above, and it's a great deal. Also, in what was probably an attempt to sound cool, the original poster said "price isn't an issue".

Even ignoring all that, $1,700-2,300 or 2,400 barely puts the ULN-2 "middle of the line" as far as price goes for high quality interfaces.

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Alekos
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thanks for the help! The Echo Audiofire 4 looks pretty nice, but I'm trying to stay away from FW... I should've said that Money isn't an issue, since I'm not willing spend more than $500-600 on a soundcard.

Looks like the options are quite limited...


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Oh shit I'm confused. I'm going to STFU.


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Alekos
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As right now, it's down to
NI Audio 8
Novation Nio 2/4
M-Audio Fast Track Ultra

MOTU Ultralite Hybrid may be another option, since I already know the sound's solid, the only difference its that I will be use it via USB

advice/opinions/ highly appreciated


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quote:
Originally posted by wrzonance
LOL! Sorry palm... that whole language barrier.

If you're selling your Mk3 just because you're afraid it will fry your system, I call that a knee-jerk reaction.

Or jumping to conclusions and reacting too quickly.

Etc.

LOL... no... I don't think your masturbating with your knee :P


lol again.

i dont have anything MK3 (assuming you talk about RME or MOTU, I have Echo AudioFire 4 atm). im keeping until it fries because its good, very good. I just dont see firewire keeping on as fewer and fewer laptops has it. Even apple removed it on the bottom-models. By the time im getting something new, USB3 might be commercial.

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quote:
Originally posted by hexadecimal
No.

~$1,700 (or more with the transformer option) for a hell of a lot more than that.

From the Metric Halo site:

2 Mic/Line/Instrument analog inputs on Neutrik Combo connectors
Balanced TRS analog sends and returns for analog inputs
2 analog outputs on balanced TRS connectors
24bit/96k converters on all channels
Headphone amp with front panel volume knob
Balanced stereo master control room monitor output with front panel volume control
AES-S/PDIF Digital I/O with selectable SRC
8 channels all new ADAT I/O with switchable TOSLINK support
v.5 Configurable mixer for near-zero latency mixing and routing
Metric Halo’s unique instantiable +DSP processing
4-pin XLR power port for compatibility with most location battery systems
10 front panel preset system/routing memories for stand-alone operation
FireWire Connectivity
Compact, light, and bus-powerable
Total recall with MIO Console
OS X drivers with multi-box support


The preamps in the ULN-2 are great. You'd have a difficult time finding a 2-channel stand-alone preamp that matches them for under $2k. Add everything else listed above, and it's a great deal. Also, in what was probably an attempt to sound cool, the original poster said "price isn't an issue".

Even ignoring all that, $1,700-2,300 or 2,400 barely puts the ULN-2 "middle of the line" as far as price goes for high quality interfaces.


Hey man, you;re preaching to the (long time ago) converted regarding the ULN-2 - I've sold more than a dozen of them, provided tech support and used them extensively.

I know they're great. What I'm saying is that my audiofire4 does that entire list apart from the ADAT and DSP - OK so it doesn't sound as good as the MH, but I paid $200 including shipping

I really don't think 99% of people reading this, making EDM in their spare room or even project studio could justify the extra $1500 for the increase in quality and those extra function. I'm stating this based on the use we're talking about here, not a pro engineer in a commercial rec studio or OB.

I know the MH is in a different league and you can't compare them on spec, function or build but what you;re talking about is spending a big chunk of cash on what i would consider one of the best portable interfaces ever made - I just think it's overkill for the OP and for the application.

EDIT: Alekos - you've got $600 so I would suggest keeping the motu or going for the audiofire. Don;t go for any of those other interfaces, they're all lower quality than what you currently have.

Everything else is realistically going to be a step down.

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