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Originally posted by tehlord you must have missed the epic buildup that was synthsquad 2009 then? I bought it and sold it on the same day

Those sound pretty damn nice, actually. Maybe after I'm finished with my Alesis Andromeda bank I'll take some time to look at some of the latest VSTis to see if they're worth their salt. I will admit that I hardly give them a chance, but rebuttal with the fact that most of them suck ass.

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Originally posted by alanzo Those sound pretty damn nice, actually. Maybe after I'm finished with my Alesis Andromeda bank I'll take some time to look at some of the latest VSTis to see if they're worth their salt. I will admit that I hardly give them a chance, but rebuttal with the fact that most of them suck ass.

they do sound nice but are incredibly savage on the CPU. I'm admittedly no tweaker either (yet, i've ordered SoundMagus' synth tutorial DVD)

Take a look at U-he ACE as well, I have to admit that sounds pretty.....er......ah fack it. It sounds analog

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I haven't heard much about any new synths, aside from some of the aforementioned ones, but I've heard rumors of a few synth-related products. There has been a hint (no specifics yet) that Cakewalk/Roland will be releasing a new series of MIDI controllers at Winter NAMM. When I asked about the CME VX-series a few weeks ago, one of the Cakewalk developers suggested that I hold off until NAMM. Also, this may be of interest to no one here, but apparently, Studio Electronics will be releasing some new filters for their CODE synth next year, including a flanger filter.

It seems like Nord is about (over)due for an update in the Lead/Wave lineup, but I haven't heard anything.

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Originally posted by tehlord they do sound nice but are incredibly savage on the CPU.

Yeah they are! I've downloaded the demo twice and was amazed to see how hard they hammered my CPU. I was trying to make a basic 2-osc pluck sound just a few weeks ago and it was using 35% of my quad-core when idle and had spikes upward of 55%, and it was the only plugin in the project! I wanted to want DCAM, but it just doesn't do it for me - that's OK, I certainly don't need it.

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Originally posted by hasbone http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/products/stromberg it's "just" a VA but it looks so tasty

F Waldorf

And why the hell doesn't this "new technology" have something neat like 18dB slopes and 48dB slopes on its filters??? Are they ever going to live down their PPG? It seems they've been in the same mind-set ever since. Yeah, great job with the wavetables. Move on already.

Honestly though, they probably have one developer on this project with this news article being the only progress he's made thus far.

I will never, ever, EVER make the mistake again and give that wretched company one red cent of my money.

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Originally posted by alanzo There's not enough hardware synths being developed these days ....

Agreed. I really don't understand this either. To me, as a consumer, I find things like the Virus TI amazingly good for reasons that I think many others do but don't talk about. The first, and most important (other than the sound), is the processor relief. I don't understand why companies don't make things like Tone2's Gladiator. There are literally hundreds of soft synths with a select few doing some very neat and impressive things. Why not put them in a box, get a little intuitive, and put a product out?

The whole (everything is going software) idea that many companies and producers seem to have really bothers me. Just because something deals with 1's and 0's and isn't voltage controlled analog doesn't mean it isn't worthy of being put in a box.

I don't mind paying the extra money to have my "softsynths in a box" when they integrate themselves like the Virus TI, offer the hands on choice, relieve the CPU, and quite frankly sound pretty f'in good. Not to mention this is not even that new of a technology!

I just don't get it and it's going to take quite a bit to convince me otherwise.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Agreed. I really don't understand this either. To me, as a consumer, I find things like the Virus TI amazingly good for reasons that I think many others do but don't talk about. The first, and most important (other than the sound), is the processor relief. I don't understand why companies don't make things like Tone2's Gladiator. There are literally hundreds of soft synths with a select few doing some very neat and impressive things. Why not put them in a box, get a little intuitive, and put a product out? The whole (everything is going software) idea that many companies and producers seem to have really bothers me. Just because something deals with 1's and 0's and isn't voltage controlled analog doesn't mean it isn't worthy of being put in a box. I don't mind paying the extra money to have my "softsynths in a box" when they integrate themselves like the Virus TI, offer the hands on choice, relieve the CPU, and quite frankly sound pretty f'in good. Not to mention this is not even that new of a technology! I just don't get it and it's going to take quite a bit to convince me otherwise.

From what i gather from your post, you are asking why there arent more new hardware synths released today akin to Gladiator, D-Cam Synthsquad and all those???

I think that product would have to be very competitively priced and do something extra special for people to go out and buy that.

I just priced a Virus TI2 desktop on thomann - €1699. Thats an insane amount of money to spend and i just havent heard where that extra €1500 goes to in the sound department...just havent, but thats just my ears
I know you get all the hands on control and everything but still

If it was about €500 id probably pick one up just to see what the deal was for myself

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley F Waldorf And why the hell doesn't this "new technology" have something neat like 18dB slopes and 48dB slopes on its filters??? Are they ever going to live down their PPG? It seems they've been in the same mind-set ever since. Yeah, great job with the wavetables. Move on already. Honestly though, they probably have one developer on this project with this news article being the only progress he's made thus far. I will never, ever, EVER make the mistake again and give that wretched company one red cent of my money.

the Q and the pulse were monsters. The pulse had some of the best sounding ossilators around.

I heard Ford's T model was quite good too.

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Originally posted by evo8 From what i gather from your post, you are asking why there arent more new hardware synths released today akin to Gladiator, D-Cam Synthsquad and all those??? I think that product would have to be very competitively priced and do something extra special for people to go out and buy that. I just priced a Virus TI2 desktop on thomann - €1699. Thats an insane amount of money to spend and i just havent heard where that extra €1500 goes to in the sound department...just havent, but thats just my ears I know you get all the hands on control and everything but still If it was about €500 id probably pick one up just to see what the deal was for myself

Competetively priced hardsynths are a good option IMO. Look at the little waldorf blofeld, its a monster and well priced and its getting a lot of customers. I think well priced hardware synths that are good for performance and have fun features like step sequencers are the way to go rather than big monsters like the virus which throw away the main advantage of hardware (good spontaneous interface) by having too many menus.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Competetively priced hardsynths are a good option IMO. Look at the little waldorf blofeld, its a monster and well priced and its getting a lot of customers. I think well priced hardware synths that are good for performance and have fun features like step sequencers are the way to go rather than big monsters like the virus which throw away the main advantage of hardware (good spontaneous interface) by having too many menus.

I agree. I think DSI has the right idea. Affordable for the most part and powerful. Different models for different level producers/prospective buyers (Prophet, Tetra, Mopho) - Great idea, great design.

Saturating the market with a bunch of do-it-all instruments would flat out not work. The money and interest just isn't there. Not asking for a bunch of wannabe virus' but I do think their TI approach is something that should be come universal in all hardware synths and we need more specialized ones, damnit.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley but I do think their TI approach is something that should be come universal in all hardware synths and we need more specialized ones, damnit.

Agreed

I still don't see why the Virus software can only open as a single MIDI routable VST though. I'd much prefer to be able to open multiple VST windows up for my convenience.

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