Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
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Originally posted by tortoise
...i even pretended my current mixer was a rotary and started using the x fader in different ways to make up for slower speed of a rotary nob and i get the same results as my normal way of mixing....
That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.
Registered: Sep 2002
Location: home or somewhere else
quote:
Originally posted by woscar
That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.
You can just not assign anything to the other side of the crossfader. Sure, it's not the same as having 4 independent line faders, but it works for me at least if I need to do some quick stuff (which I rarely do).
i started out mixing on linear version djm's and used those for a very long time before switching to 92-r, and i just couldn't break the habit of maxing the knob at 12 o'clock instead of 5 o'clock on the rotary in middle of a mix, as if its a linear fader. and sometimes in the heat of it, i'd confuse higher-mid fr. eq with high fr. eq. its pretty dumb when you think about it, but old habits are really hard to break especially when you don't play around as much as you used to...
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Jan-09-2010 20:27
tortoise
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Okinawa, JP/Osan, ROK/ Denver, CO / Pittsburgh,PA
quote:
Originally posted by woscar
That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.
not the way i mix. normally ill set the EQs then, ill up fade about 3/4 the way real fast. i usually put my finger down to stop if from going all the way to full volume. from there i adjust the EQs and slowly up fade the rest of the way.
new way
i have my X-fader set so that any movement from ether side will bring in the assigned track to full volume. there is no fade involved at all.
now. instead of up fade 3/4 the way i will set my x-fader to one side and turn the rotary knob 3/4 the way up. there will be no change in the music being played because the x fader is to the side where the channel that is to be up faded in is off. when im ready i will quicklly cross fade to the middle, placing my finger down to stop the fader from going all the way to the other side & muteing the track that is to be faded out. from there i will proceed as normal
If you are anything like me, once you get your Allen & Heath your entire method mixing is going to change anyway... lol
I used to mix similar to the way you describe, but now I mostly use the high pass filter. I turn the filter on the channel I am mixing and adjust it so the resonance is pretty even (no cut, no added effect) and so that all of the low is filtered out and most of the high. Then I move the line-fader to 100% and slowly mix in with the filter - then when it is even to the main I put the filter on the first track and take it off the new one and mix out with filter - usually turning up the resonance to add a little effect.
As I have said on here before (and I'm sure people are tired of hearing it) the 42 changed my (mixing) life within 15 minutes of hooking it up. I was never a fan of the Pioneer - mostly because of the effects. The A&H filter is all I will ever need (want).
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Jan-11-2010 21:03
woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
quote:
Originally posted by tortoise
not the way i mix. normally ill set the EQs then, ill up fade about 3/4 the way real fast. i usually put my finger down to stop if from going all the way to full volume. from there i adjust the EQs and slowly up fade the rest of the way.
new way
i have my X-fader set so that any movement from ether side will bring in the assigned track to full volume. there is no fade involved at all.
now. instead of up fade 3/4 the way i will set my x-fader to one side and turn the rotary knob 3/4 the way up. there will be no change in the music being played because the x fader is to the side where the channel that is to be up faded in is off. when im ready i will quicklly cross fade to the middle, placing my finger down to stop the fader from going all the way to the other side & muteing the track that is to be faded out. from there i will proceed as normal
That's a weird ass way of mixing, but whatever works for you.
I was just pointing out that "doing different things with the crossfader" trying to mimic what the rotary knob does is not going to work.
Registered: May 2003
Location: Okinawa, JP/Osan, ROK/ Denver, CO / Pittsburgh,PA
Just so happens they sent me the fader version anyway. (Gray face plate, sweet). over all i really like it. it is taking some time to get used to. my old mixer (Vestax PMC37 pro) had 3 faders instead of 4 knobs for eqing so that's the biggest learning curve with this mixer.
