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Originally posted by Richard Butler My approach is to spend ages on each track, like hundreds of hours. I've only recently got my set up and decided to push into EDM (although it was a hobby of mine some years ago, but I did'nt do anything with it). I've noticed a lot of top people spend ages on a track, for example Funkerman and Feede Le Grande are renowned perfectionists that can spend hundreds of hours getting the drums right. Same for the Freemasons - in a vid last year they were working on a track that had taken them about 5 weeks, working everyday full time. Also the sucessful German D.O.N.S guys had a vid last year in which they claimied to spend weeks on each track now. To me it's like this; If there are 1 million bedroom producers and the majority are spending say 30 hours on a track, it's not likely I will do better by spending 30 hours too - why should I, and I cant rely on luck to do the heavy lifting. I have an obsessive nature and think nothing of listening to the same loop for hours on end until Im happy. I would readily spend 500 hours on a track. Its early days for me, and my sound is'nt there yet, but I'm thinking maybe the sheer commitment and obsessive nature may help me. In case you wonder I am dedicated to my family and spend lots of time with my kids every day and I work full time. I manage to squeeze in about 3 hours per night on music, typically 9-12. I manage about 10+ hours each weekend. Even if I've driven 300 miles that day and get back at 10 pm, I'd still be on the music at 11. If I fail, then so be it, but Im not one who belives in general there are short cutz.

Wow

The last track I did was MAYBE 10 hours from acapella download to finished render

Perhaps I should spend a bit more time tweaking!

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Originally posted by Richard Butler My approach is to spend ages on each track, like hundreds of hours. I've only recently got my set up and decided to push into EDM (although it was a hobby of mine some years ago, but I did'nt do anything with it). I've noticed a lot of top people spend ages on a track, for example Funkerman and Feede Le Grande are renowned perfectionists that can spend hundreds of hours getting the drums right. Same for the Freemasons - in a vid last year they were working on a track that had taken them about 5 weeks, working everyday full time. Also the sucessful German D.O.N.S guys had a vid last year in which they claimied to spend weeks on each track now. To me it's like this; If there are 1 million bedroom producers and the majority are spending say 30 hours on a track, it's not likely I will do better by spending 30 hours too - why should I, and I cant rely on luck to do the heavy lifting. I have an obsessive nature and think nothing of listening to the same loop for hours on end until Im happy. I would readily spend 500 hours on a track. Its early days for me, and my sound is'nt there yet, but I'm thinking maybe the sheer commitment and obsessive nature may help me. In case you wonder I am dedicated to my family and spend lots of time with my kids every day and I work full time. I manage to squeeze in about 3 hours per night on music, typically 9-12. I manage about 10+ hours each weekend. Even if I've driven 300 miles that day and get back at 10 pm, I'd still be on the music at 11. If I fail, then so be it, but Im not one who belives in general there are short cutz.

I'm in the same boat - kids, family, late hours... I try to get as much time in the studio as I can but I get distracted easily. Like I'll be looking at my track, then jump on youtube looking for ideas, then jump back into track, trying to immitate an old song I found while listening and there goes my night. Nothing finished.

Being commited to actually producing a finished product takes dedication, which I clearly seem to lack. I'm going to force myself to finish a track tonight. You lot will be to blame!

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Ever since I had the thought of how Trance (In general) was made , to researching and getting hold of FL , I have took a lot in and also ignored much of things said in here.
I picked up things through tutorials and guides but the melody aspect of things was much different for me.
At first like all noobs I just wrote melodies in the piano roll with a mouse.But then I invested in the Hardware and I am now picking up theory slowly but surely and 'hopefully!' writing better and better tunes as I go along.
As of the production side , I now know what is what and can now pretty much understand what process does what.
I think the threads such as ''What hz should my bass be ?'' and ''Why wont my ultramaximised compresser double sidechained bus master sound like Armin?'' dont help at all.
You could say im a complete musical production illitarist.
I couldnt tell you what Hz my bass is or what multiband superdooperizer setting my synths are on?
All I know is that I have Input-Mix/Mod-Filter-LFO-Amp.
And if I change these I get different sounds that suit or I make to suit a particular melody or sequence.
I know that FX give good drive to a song which therefore makes it enjoyable to listen.
Ive also listened to trance since I was 11 years old ( which was about 16 years ago now!)And I know what structure I want my productions to be.
Sorry to ramble on.....but here is my point....

I think other than Mr.Mystery's very valid point of its not what you know but who you know , there is alot of far too technical producers out there who post meaningless posts about figures and overused techniques to which most people reply 'DOES IT SOUND GOOD?' ,
in which the threads usually go dead.
So finally...... lol
I think other than being Tiesto's dogsitter , people who land on there feet tend to be more in touch with a scene than someone with a laptop and a mouse and a head full of confusion and figures.

Personally , well produced doesnt mean a whole lot to me.

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