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Richard Butler
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I have the hs50m. I don't know if they're good or not!

They may just about any kick sound clicky and non pros hearing a track of mine thru them comment on 'that clicky noise'.

Hard to hear whats going on down in the subby regions.

Perhaps they make me work harde as they aren't very forgiving?

I can post a beat here I've been making the last week if you want, its the direct result of using those monitors and may reveal flaws in the mix as I've really tried hard to get the mix right, although the true flaw could be my ears of course.


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drogtech
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ok so lets say i am gonna buy yamaha hs80m, i have sound card M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 ( http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...ophile2496.html) , what would be the best connection to get the best sound possible? directly from soundcard to monitors or some other way??

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quote:
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ok so lets say i am gonna buy yamaha hs80m, i have sound card M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 ( http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...ophile2496.html) , what would be the best connection to get the best sound possible? directly from soundcard to monitors or some other way??


the less crap you have between source and output - the better. Every subsequent link tends to color the sound or at least introduce noise. U want accuracy, not distortion of the original material


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drogtech
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ok so i would need to buy cable 2 x rca - 2 x jack 6.3 mono and i am ready to go ?

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ok so i would need to buy cable 2 x rca - 2 x jack 6.3 mono and i am ready to go ?
Whats your source? If it supports TRS or XLR, go that route - RCA cables are shit.


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drogtech
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quote:
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Whats your source? If it supports TRS or XLR, go that route - RCA cables are shit.


my soundcard http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...ophile2496.html

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my soundcard http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...ophile2496.html


Sorry.. that card is very entry-level. I guess it's good to start with but considering you can buy an RME Multiface for about $350-$400... I'd say get rid of it. It's possibly a step above soundblaster in terms of ASIO latency, if that. You can buy any great set of speakers but running RCA out of the sound card into a great speaker will mostly sound like shit due to noise that RCA is prone to.


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drogtech
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Sorry.. that card is very entry-level. I guess it's good to start with but considering you can buy an RME Multiface for about $350-$400... I'd say get rid of it. It's possibly a step above soundblaster in terms of ASIO latency, if that. You can buy any great set of speakers but running RCA out of the sound card into a great speaker will mostly sound like shit due to noise that RCA is prone to.


ok so ive got problem because, i should buy new soundcard first then? those one i have was highly recommendet at that time i bought it is it really that bad? which soundcard should i buy not to expensive but still ok for home studio? or go maybe for audio interfaces but they are more expensive ?

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Rebel Brown
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Buy the monitors first, but it might be wise to make a new soundcard your next priority.

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HS50's are OK - not amazing. They lack the bass in the very lower end and becuase of it I find some lack of clarity in the very lower mid.

HS80's are indeed great - on a par with the original reputation of the Mackie HR824's....

......but they are useless in a small or bad room - they simply boom and you'll be lucky to get a mix that translates well without a lot of jiggery-pokery.

IMO, the HS80's are the replacement for (not the same as) NS10's as they actually sound better.

In a small room, go for the JBL LSR 2325p - absolutely outstanding monitors for $400 per pair and piss all over other brands such as KRK.

Personally, I'd take the 2325p's over the HS50's for a small room and only upgrade to HS80's if I had the room size and money.

To me, these are the new standards at those price ranges.

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HS50's are OK - not amazing. They lack the bass in the very lower end and becuase of it I find some lack of clarity in the very lower mid.

HS80's are indeed great - on a par with the original reputation of the Mackie HR824's....

......but they are useless in a small or bad room - they simply boom and you'll be lucky to get a mix that translates well without a lot of jiggery-pokery.

IMO, the HS80's are the replacement for (not the same as) NS10's as they actually sound better.

In a small room, go for the JBL LSR 2325p - absolutely outstanding monitors for $400 per pair and piss all over other brands such as KRK.

Personally, I'd take the 2325p's over the HS50's for a small room and only upgrade to HS80's if I had the room size and money.

To me, these are the new standards at those price ranges.



thanks for info, as someone mentioned in other thread when we can call room is small and when its big enought for 8inch?? i mean from 0-20m2 its small and >20m2 its big??(mine around 11m2) I am still afraid about that boomy part with 8icn but in other hand I could always work in lover volume??

and I am still wondering about connection, I was thinking to buy e-mu 1212m but there is only 1 pair outputs for monitor and I would like to connect at the same time headphones to not switch in the back every time I want to listen one or the other.

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DJ RANN
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quote:
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thanks for info, as someone mentioned in other thread when we can call room is small and when its big enought for 8inch?? i mean from 0-20m2 its small and >20m2 its big??(mine around 11m2) I am still afraid about that boomy part with 8icn but in other hand I could always work in lover volume??

and I am still wondering about connection, I was thinking to buy e-mu 1212m but there is only 1 pair outputs for monitor and I would like to connect at the same time headphones to not switch in the back every time I want to listen one or the other.


That's not the smallest room per say, you should be OK with that size room for monitoring but it also depends on if you have low ceilings, a narrow room, the speakers are close to walls (either at the sides or back etc) - if the answer is yes to any of these then you might run in to problems.

As for soundcards, stay the fuck away from EMU (they're shit) and M-audio (once were good but now not up to par).

Try the ECHO audio range of products - they offer excellent connectivity and quality for low cost.

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