Just put the slider down to about -7 db for some 3 db headroom, sounds perfectly fine to me, like my original mix just quieter.

The volume on a non clipping export depends on how huge your peaking transients are.

If you have big peaks the export volume will be lower, if you have no peaks it will be louder.

Changing the volume on individual channels or the master channel doesnt make any difference at all.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c Nope dont tell him that, its not ok to clip on any digital system. So what your saying is that in cubase 0db actually means -6db which is not the case. If you mix something to -0.1 db in cubase then put it into any other wave editing program it will be at 0.1 not -5.9

at the mixdown it adds 6db, so just reduce the master volume of your highest peak minus 0.1 or something for the mixdown.

but during editing 0 is -6

you know what I mean :P

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Originally posted by gr8ape at the mixdown it adds 6db, so just reduce the master volume of your highest peak minus 0.1 or something for the mixdown. but during editing 0 is -6 you know what I mean :P

Nono, try importing a track which is already at 0db and you will see the master channel will also be at the same.

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Originally posted by gr8ape at the mixdown it adds 6db, but during editing 0 is -6

I have never heard this in my life? this cant be true.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c I have never heard this in my life? this cant be true.

You wont hear clipping when editing if the master goes over 0db cause cubase has 6 db headroom. it warns you though (little red square)

but if you audio export with a red square, its bad news cause youll be actually clipping


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you dont want to go over 0db when you export your mix thats for sure

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Originally posted by gr8ape You wont hear clipping when editing if the master goes over 0db cause cubase has 6 db headroom. it warns you though (little red square) but if you audio export with a red square, its bad news cause youll be actually clipping IN THE END you dont want to go over 0db when you export your mix thats for sure

Lol dude what you said was its ok to go over 0 now and again and that cubase boosts the mix by 6 in the mixdown. Which is not true. All programs and desks have some room after 0 that doesn't mean they built in headroom it just means its over 0. Lol and yes i'm aware of the little red square just about =p

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If it wasn't ok to use the master volume there wouldn't be one would there!

Osmodior. What the hell are you on about?

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Originally posted by Sonic_c Lol dude what you said was its ok to go over 0 now and again and that cubase boosts the mix by 6 in the mixdown. Which is not true. All programs and desks have some room after 0 that doesn't mean they built in headroom it just means its over 0. Lol and yes i'm aware of the little red square just about =p

im pretty sure there is 6db built in headroom with cubase

take a sound that reaches 0db, listen to it in cubase, then export it and listen to it with foobar or wtv. im pretty sure its going to be louder in foobar

anyways im terrible at explaining lol

The level shown on the master channel in Cubase is the same level it'll be if you export the song and put it on a CD, or load it into an audio editor like soundforge or wavelab.

If you put a limiter on the master with an output of -0.1 dB, that's what the output level is. There's no difference in the output level between listening to your song and exporting a mixdown.

I have no idea where the thought that there's a 6 dB difference came from. It's very easy for anyone using Cubase to try this out themselves and see that this information is false.