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Phrequency
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Im sorry if i made mistake but i think he was meaning the MP3 player not a phone am I mistaken?

I was speaking of the mp3 player

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Zak McKracken
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its the same. the amplifier is more important than the dac.

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Phrequency
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its the same. the amplifier is more important than the dac.



today most phones have decent quality amps, but hit n miss DA Converters, either way u cant win. I settled with an iPod

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IceColdWater
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quote:
Originally posted by Phrequency
by the word clipped im guessin you mean distorted above the speakers' optimal volume level you like music loud man.

Buy better headphones, it is the headphones that clipped, but the samsung device is limited because of its DACs' and therefore, no matter what u do, u'll still have a bit of bad quality sound, but hey what the hell its only for listening to right


Yeah but the thing is , when I plugged the headphone into the computer and blast it really loud , it doesn't clip whereas my Samsung does. And the volume it's playing at is even louder than that of my Samsung.
So I'm guessing it's the Samsung's problem .. Oh well.


Anyway , thanks for the replies guys.. Really enlightened me.. I didn't even know about DACs and stuff in the first place.
It's a phone btw


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Phrequency
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Computer has a soundcard, phone has a trashcan replica

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quote:
Originally posted by IceColdWater
Thanks for the reply guys!
Now I know why the Sennheiser clips on my Samsung..

But the question is.. Why did the headphone clip? Or was it the samsung that clipped?


Turn off any eq settings like loudness/bass boost/etc. Often a -0.02db mp3 will be driven over 0.0db into the amplifier section by the signal processing of the eq/bass boost. Try using a bass boost using the graphic equaliser on windows media player while playing a heavily brickwall limited master. This demonstrates what I imagine is happening with your player. This is digital (non physical) clipping.

Other than this, Id guess your Sennheisers are of a lower impedance than the headphones the player was designed to be used with meaning you are able to draw more output than the amplifier power supply can deliver-hence you hear clipping earlier. This becomes even more apparent when using a headphone output into a dj mixer because of the lower impedance of the mixer allowing the amp to clip earlier. This is amplifier clipping (physical) which is different to the digital clipping I mentioned earlier.


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quote:
Originally posted by Phrequency
today most phones have decent quality amps, but hit n miss DA Converters, either way u cant win. I settled with an iPod


no

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Phrequency
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You must have bad phone taste then

But I think this topic is done, the question has been answered

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