This is pretty ironic as he's mentioned how creativity is the only limiting factor in music. But now we know that this is true to everything except low saw basses.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I REALLY REALLY hate to say this. But I agree there are a lot of basses you hear everyday that just DO NOT sound like they were made on software, or like they could be replicated in software. I've heard some mean gritty sylenth basses, some mean gritty z3ta basses, and trust me some of them sound mean and gritty, but they STILL do not live up to the level of hardware. Thats why for bass I am a serious sample whore. I sampled the entire trilogy into soundfonts (just because I prefer working with SF2 rather then triology) and I also use a lot of samples from Nexus for bass. There are dirty moog saws, andromeda pulse basses, the famous sentry arp bass (comeon there is NO fucking way of getting close to the sentry bass on software) and a lot of the hard sync basses as well sound completely different replicated on software.

mate no, maybe with an analog synth with an analog compressor could change something, but an hardware VA and a digital compressor is the same...

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how the fuck do you even know this? you say it like its fact but there are lots of people out there making music with only software.. sorry but you're actually wrong and i'm not just pissing on you for the sake of it

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox But I agree there are a lot of basses you hear everyday that just DO NOT sound like they were made on software, or like they could be replicated in software.

hilarity ensuing

i thought Hardware v Software was next week

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Originally posted by evo8 i thought Hardware v Software was next week

No didnt you get the memo? its been moved to today

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

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Originally posted by Kysora Yeah, yeah, another "how do I make this sound" thread, bear with me These basses are obviously just low saws, but none of my synths seem capable of making sounds like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq68cvkJlVc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74aP_D-nqwU (:57) -- This is similar to the sound I'm looking for, just in that I'd want to use one as a midbass. I really like the dirty, low distorted sound it gives to tracks. I know it's just a very low saw with maybe some distortion and sidechained to the kick, but none of the VSTi's I've tried to use can hold up at notes that low and still retain any kind of drive or even tone. They just wind up sounding like gurgling or clipping. I've put sub basses underneath them to fill out the sound but these basses sound more like one tone, using two bass patches like that just makes it sound like what it is, a saw and a sub bass, instead of a very low saw. Though that might just be my inexperience. I'm not great at making patches by any means, and even as simple as basses are, I can't get this kind of sound down. Does anyone have any ideas? Are there synths that are meant to make sounds like these? I have Sylenth, Trilogy and Predator.. Trilogy's saw patches don't seem to go that low and I haven't had luck with the other two

Think distortion plays a big part, sometimes saw basses sound awful bit of distortion they sound a lot better.

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

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Originally posted by RichieV How could you possibly be in a position of knowing when you have yet to own any hardware save your virus which you don't seem to particularly like either. The reason you have this view is that you are inept at sound design and instead of accepting that you might not know alot, you blame it on the tools you don't know how to use.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

I like the idea of Trilian tho, seems like the best of both worlds, all those analog emulations without the hassle of actually having the unit etc... i think ill pick it up when i rebuild my pc with Windows 7 64-bit and some extra ram

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The only thing that i keep in my arsenal for making my Basses is.

PSP Vintage Warmer


To me it can bring a Bass that sounds weak come alive. I just love the thing.

If your Bass is not cutting it then layer it. The sounds that you have posted could have a Low sin wave in them as well to keep the bottom end.

Also when making nice sounding Basslines you have to have the right Kick to compliment each other.

Also knowing what Frequencies to Eq in each sound to get the maximum results.

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Originally posted by evo8 I like the idea of Trilian tho, seems like the best of both worlds, all those analog emulations without the hassle of actually having the unit etc... i think ill pick it up when i rebuild my pc with Windows 7 64-bit and some extra ram

Trilian is dead set the best VST I've ever bought and will probably only be surpassed by Omnisphere (which is the next purchase)!

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