I don't know... I know a few pretty stupid people who can't stop gesturing when they talk. Also, I worked in door-to-door fundraising for a bit and they teach you to be really expressive when pitching. You find yourself gesturing more when talking normally, like you can't stop pitching to people. So I don't necessarily believe it's a sign of intelligence, although it can be a very useful way of communicating.

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Ok, but I'm not really asking talking about effective communication - that goes without saying (hah). And I think it does have to do with intelligence. I'm talking about a naturally good brain, not one that has to work hard at things, lol.

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Originally posted by enydo I doubt it really signifies intelligence in any way. A person's vocabulary probably could, although some people have a large vocabulary without being that smart, and vice versa.

Smart and intelligent are two very different things though. Intelligence is all about processing speed whereas one is considered smart if they have a large breadth of information readily available for recall.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

See, and now we're talking about how intelligence is defined. I fucking knew this would happen. Fuck off Craig! Oh, and enydo!

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Originally posted by jennypie Ok, but I'm not really asking talking about effective communication - that goes without saying (hah). And I think it does have to do with intelligence. I'm talking about a naturally good brain, not one that has to work hard at things, lol.

In that case I would argue it has more to do with how one thinks rather then how efficiently one thinks. Some people simply do not think in terms of words; rather, they think in terms of pictures or actions; it seems logical to conclude that such persons would have a natural inclination to gesture while communicating. Again, this would seem to have nothing to do with intelligence.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

You're pretty much describing what it means to have good communication skills. I don't really see how you can equate it to intelligence considering how many other variables are in play. I think the gap in your logic is that you're assuming that what someone expresses externally is a reflection of what they're thinking.

For example;

People may suffer from social phobias or anxiety disorders that make it more difficult for them to express themselves, either verbally or in gesture.

Some highly intelligent people tend to also be very introverted. This means they would have much less opportunity to practice their social skills.

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Originally posted by jennypie See, and now we're talking about how intelligence is defined. I fucking knew this would happen.

Well...maybe you should have communicated that better

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Originally posted by jennypie See, and now we're talking about how intelligence is defined. I fucking knew this would happen. Fuck off Craig! Oh, and enydo!

if you meant something other then intelligence then you probably should have paid closer attention to your diction.



Again, it all comes back to the dick.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine I think the gap in your logic is that you're assuming that what someone expresses externally is a reflection of what they're thinking.

Ok, so then what if the argument IS under the assumption that all have that capacity? Doesn't it seem more efficient to be able to do, well - anything, using less tools (words, gestures) to do it? Also assuming efficiency is most desirable.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ok, so then what if the argument IS under the assumption that all have that capacity? Doesn't it seem more efficient to be able to do, well - anything, using less tools (words, gestures) to do it? Also assuming efficiency is most desirable.

If you can guarentee the same meaning and effect from the more concise version, yes. But that still begs the question that gestures are more efficient than words.

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Originally posted by jennypie See, and now we're talking about how intelligence is defined. I fucking knew this would happen. Fuck off Craig! Oh, and enydo!

I was just trying to move the discussion along, yeeesssh.

Reiki though, on the clit.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J But that still begs the question that gestures are more efficient than words.

Yes exactly, thank you. What do you think?

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Originally posted by enydo Reiki though, on the clit.

Lol. I like that you kept it on task with a ******** reference.