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Originally posted by emc^2 How many ppl here think that the rift between US and Israel is staged? Follow this wacky logic: 1. Israel doesn't want nuclear Iran, US is on board as well 2. Israel wants to take military action, US is openly against it 3. Behind closed doors, US says: "let's make it look like we're fighting and we're trying to stop you, but you do your thang. We'll play mad that you did and vigorously wag our collective finger." 4. The rest plays out in media: Israel spits in Biden's face, US acts all upset, Iran gives everyone the finger again, and now Israel is getting ready to strike Iran. I know it may be a bit far-fetched but it kinda takes the pressure off US, if you think about it. Now, I personally think it would be dumb as shit to attack Iran and I am definitely against it. But I figure should shit hit the fan, there would be lots of covert players interested in getting their punch in. Look for Sudi Arabia, China, Russia, and US duking it out behind the curtains, while Israel is being used as a scape goat and a punching bag. So, what do you think?

I agree, but I still think Obama has been the worst thing that has happened to Israel and the great United States of America. I call it the 'kool-aid fever'-- he's making Carter look like a hero! Well done.

Obama's health care takes care of immediate family members in my household, but with time I'll be able to afford something better. I'm convinced a nanny state (and a trillion dollar debt) is the least thing I want my grandkids to experience or inherit.

g-d bless.

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Originally posted by noah I agree, but I still think Obama has been the worst thing that has happened to Israel and the great United States of America. I call it the 'kool-aid fever'-- he's making Carter look like a hero! Well done. Obama's health care takes care of immediate family members in my household, but with time I'll be able to afford something better. I'm convinced a nanny state (and a trillion dollar debt) is the least thing I want my grandkids to experience or inherit. g-d bless.

If Obama is the worst thing to have happened to America, what was George W Bush?

who cares - no nukes, no war, no boom.

irans getting shit on, write out otherwise potential regional power on amicable ties with US's business partners china and russia.

They can't compete with iran so they strangle them, same deal with iraq 20 years ago.

The US and Israel are not beneath murder and destruction of their opponents. Even if the opponent hasn't acted against them.

IE both will strike on the beleif rather than the act. It isn't FEAR OF DESTRUCTION - it is fear of someone elses success they are despot states. They both trace their histories to theft of others land by force.

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Originally posted by ******** who cares - no nukes, no war, no boom. irans getting shit on, write out otherwise potential regional power on amicable ties with US's business partners china and russia. They can't compete with iran so they strangle them, same deal with iraq 20 years ago. The US and Israel are not beneath murder and destruction of their opponents. Even if the opponent hasn't acted against them. IE both will strike on the beleif rather than the act. It isn't FEAR OF DESTRUCTION - it is fear of someone elses success they are despot states. They both trace their histories to theft of others land by force.

Listening to you like being bukkaked with stupid.

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Originally posted by Chairman Meow If Obama is the worst thing to have happened to America, what was George W Bush?

GW Bush was the best thing that ever happend for Israel.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Listening to you like being bukkaked with stupid.

Did your slideshow leave town without you?


I bet your mother has a loud fart! Afterall her ass fit you through it.

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Originally posted by noah I agree, but I still think Obama has been the worst thing that has happened to Israel and the great United States of America. I call it the 'kool-aid fever'-- he's making Carter look like a hero! Well done.

So is he a bad president because for the first time in years he is actually criticizing Israel's actions?. How is that a bad thing exactly? you really believe that Israel is so perfect that it shouldn't be criticized by the U.S. president?

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no he is a bad president because he let his citizens abduct and hold me for a month against my wishes, then threatened me in that if I come back I would be forced to stay for 10 years.


Its nice to visit or traverse the US now and then but lets get real there is something called "overkill"

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Originally posted by ******** no he is a bad president because he let his citizens abduct and hold me for a month against my wishes, then threatened me in that if I come back I would be forced to stay for 10 years.

vote 1 obama.

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Why should a rogue non-state like Israel be allowed to have nuclear weapons while Iran can't? Israel is a much bigger menace and threat to its neighbors than Iran is.

Nobody "allowed" Israel to obtain nuclear weapons. They just did. And 90% of the world's countries recognize the Israeli state. Get with the times man. It's not 1948 anymore.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin Nobody "allowed" Israel to obtain nuclear weapons. They just did. And 90% of the world's countries recognize the Israeli state. Get with the times man. It's not 1948 anymore.

Maybe I'll get with the times when "Israel" gets with the times and:

* Ends the mass oppression of the Palestinian people.
* Stops having a government that favors people based on their religious background and grant equal rights to all.
* End the "law of return" and stop importing people from abroad in order to maintain a retarded constitutional ideology that's counter to democracy.

Israel for years has been one of the biggest threats to world peace and the main dividing line between the west and the Arab world.