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Originally posted by Storyteller But the facts show none.

What facts are those? Are they on the propellerheads site? I can hear a difference and I'm sure the waveform would show the same.

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Originally posted by 19503 my god, can anyone really hear anything deference on that? isnt that just the eqs? i dont use the mixer eqs at all, i use the eq device on the instruments intead. atleast i havent heard any improvements in the sound since v2.5. record has another mixdown though, not sure its better. its somehow softer.

I have to agree, I've noticed the switch at the back and its always in the correct position when you start. I've noticed a slight difference in record with the new compressor, havent tested just with a straight up sample and no effects.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 What facts are those? Are they on the propellerheads site? I can hear a difference and I'm sure the waveform would show the same.

Comparisons done at the same time the problem with the mixer got solved (with the introduction of 2.5 I think - not sure). Maybe they messed up again. Who knows. I don't think that's likely though as the mixer problem caused quite a stir back in the day.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Comparisons done at the same time the problem with the mixer got solved (with the introduction of 2.5 I think - not sure). Maybe they messed up again. Who knows. I don't think that's likely though as the mixer problem caused quite a stir back in the day.

Ahh ok cool. It did indeed cause a stir, I think it still does haha.

I was watching the claude Von Stroke future music in the studio video's. He uses reason and also has some great video's on the propellerhead website.

In the future music video's he says that reason crunches down on the output. He explains that other software does this but reason has a particular way, which he said sounds great on bass and the hotter you run reason the better it can sound, although some might not recommend to do that.

He goes on to say that the reason it does this is there is a compressor in the hardware interface which obviously cannot be adjusted. That got me thinking, that makes sense because there is no doubt something is going on in reason.

I'm trying to find the video on you tube will post it up when I find it.

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thanks alot for feedback...very positive and very helpful

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Thats very weird that you mentioned a kick drum sample specifically.

After using Reason for 2 1/2 years, the FIRST thing I noticed different was when I loaded a kick drum into FL's Sampler for some reason it sounded NOTHING like reason.

I def agree something is different idk what specifically it is causing it, but it use to translate to mixes so well when I rendered too (the variance). It always seemed my reason tracks were lacking bass, or the bass was getting swallowed somewhere inside the computer, but once I switched to FL it seemed like all a sudden my tracks finally had kick drums.

In reason the kick drums never came through, and the entire low end in general usually sounded like shit. Now however, when I route Reason through FL I do not get that problem, so I'm not sure if its the mixer or what, but its not "all the same". No 2 things in life are ever the same no matter how hard people may try to make it that way.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Thats very weird that you mentioned a kick drum sample specifically. After using Reason for 2 1/2 years, the FIRST thing I noticed different was when I loaded a kick drum into FL's Sampler for some reason it sounded NOTHING like reason. I def agree something is different idk what specifically it is causing it, but it use to translate to mixes so well when I rendered too (the variance). It always seemed my reason tracks were lacking bass, or the bass was getting swallowed somewhere inside the computer, but once I switched to FL it seemed like all a sudden my tracks finally had kick drums. In reason the kick drums never came through, and the entire low end in general usually sounded like shit. Now however, when I route Reason through FL I do not get that problem, so I'm not sure if its the mixer or what, but its not "all the same". No 2 things in life are ever the same no matter how hard people may try to make it that way.

Thats it, you can hear a difference immediately. Agreed on the mixes also, that translates to them. I mentioned a kick because its something that is noticeable in change and simple to load into any program for playback when comparing.

And its not that its just a case of putting the volume up, its like certain frequencies have been alerted also.

I'm certain though even when you rewire the sound is the same because its going through the hardware interface. Thats something I've tested for myself. You can get a great sound from reason, but it involves alot more tweaking and finding your technique when compared to using other programs.