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Old Post Jun-17-2010 22:08  United States
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wait wait wait...everyone was complaining about how much of an idiot bush was...and now the same people are complaining that obama is too smart? (or at least, his vocabular is of that manner).

Old Post Jun-17-2010 22:49  United States
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wait wait wait...everyone was complaining about how much of an idiot bush was...and now the same people are complaining that obama is too smart? (or at least, his vocabular is of that manner).




From an analysis taken in January after Obama's State of the Union speech:

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'Professor' Obama? President's State of the Union Address Notches 4th Lowest Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level Score Since FDR

Text of Obama's Address has a readability score for an average 8th grader - two grades lower than George W. Bush's Addresses and the historical average for modern presidents

Unlike the criticisms hurled at his predecessor, however, few have ever charged that the President, a former senior lecturer in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School, has written or spoken too simplistically or catered his words to the lowest common denominator.

However, a Smart Politics analysis of nearly 70 oral State of the Union Addresses since the mid-1930s finds the text of Obama's speech on Wednesday evening to have one of the lowest scores on the Flesch-Kincaid readability test ever recorded by a U.S. President.

The Flesch-Kincaid test is designed to assess the readability level of written text, with a formula that translates the score to a U.S. grade level. Longer sentences and sentences utilizing words with more syllables produce higher scores. Shorter sentences and sentences incorporating more monosyllabic words yield lower scores.

Smart Politics ran the Flesch-Kincaid test on each of the last 68 State of the Union Addresses that were delivered orally by presidents before a Joint Session of Congress since Franklin Roosevelt. Excluded from analysis were five written addresses (Truman in 1946 and 1953, Eisenhower in 1961, Nixon in 1973, and Carter in 1981) and two addresses that were delivered orally, but not by the President himself (Roosevelt in 1945, Eisenhower in 1956). Prior to FDR, most, but not all, such Addresses were delivered in writing.

Obama's Flesch-Kincaid grade level score of 8.8 for his first State of the Union Address was the fourth lowest score since FDR's first Address in 1934.

What this means is that Obama wrote and delivered a speech that incorporated shorter sentences, with those sentences containing shorter words, than nearly every such Presidential Address in the modern era.


So how is he compared to the baffoon he replaced? Well...

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As such, the speech by 'the professor' stands in contrast to his predecessor, 'the cowboy,' George W. Bush, who was frequently skewered by the left and late-night talk show hosts for his public speaking abilities, his intelligence, and his misuse of the English language.

Bush averaged a Flesch-Kincaid score of 10.4 across his seven State of the Union Addresses - or nearly two full grades higher than Obama's speech. Bush's speeches also averaged 2.4 more words per sentence than Obama, at 19.0.

In other words, the text of George W. Bush's speeches are expected to be understandable (in written form) by an average sophomore in high school, whereas Obama's speech should be understandable by a junior high school student.

Interestingly, George W. Bush's 10.4 Flesch-Kincaid score was also higher than several of his predecessors, including Ronald Reagan (10.3), Bill Clinton (9.5), and his father George H.W. Bush (8.6).

Still, it is, at the very least, interesting that 'the professor' should write and deliver a speech that has a readability level two grades lower than those crafted and delivered by 'the cowboy.'

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartp...sidents_sta.php

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Yeah, but W. couldn't pronounce Nuclear.

Massive facepalm at that CNN article and at America in general.


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Yeah, but W. couldn't pronounce Nuclear.

Massive facepalm at that CNN article and at America in general.


not being able to pronounce "nuclear" gave me facepalms for 8 years. lol.


But now we have this:



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Shit, I had to look that up to know it was wrong And I've got a great vocabulary


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At this rate, our next president will be reminiscent of someone like:



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So how is he compared to the baffoon he replaced? Well...


Buffoon is not a word you want to misspell.


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I lOVE THIS guy's comment on the article!!

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