It definitely keeps your attention. Very well done.

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Originally posted by The17sss Has anyone been watching this series on ESPN? A few of them have been pretty good... especially the ones about Ricky Williams, "The Trial of Allen Iverson", and the one about Len Bias.

the one about The U was great



Straight outta LA was Horrible....

Not one mention of Bo Jackson's impact, Tim Brown, the additions of Roger Craig or Ronnie Lott or even Hostetler. ESPN should be embarrassed for airing that one

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Originally posted by Scoops the one about The U was great Straight outta LA was Horrible.... Not one mention of Bo Jackson's impact, Tim Brown, the additions of Roger Craig or Ronnie Lott or even Hostetler. ESPN should be embarrassed for airing that one

I agree on both counts. Even as a former Florida State student, watching "The U" was awesome. My 2nd favorite of the 30 for 30 series.

Ice Cube did a shitty directing job on the LA one. That episode sucked. The gay ass cartoons... ugh. The least he could do was use proper English and grammar while narrating. And yeah, how the hell could he neglect to mention Bo Jackson and the others? He was basically making it seem like he and Eazy E are solely responsible for Raider Nation.

i felt it was a good documentary. my top 5 so far:

1. Without Bias
2. The Two Escobars
3. June 17th, 1994
4. The U
5. Small Potatoes : Who Killed the USFL?

with a good number of honorable mentions

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to answer a previous question; ESPN is one of the biggest sports networks in the US.


as for the Two Escobars, Great Great piece. I was moved.


the football player that died was killed because he stood up for himself outside of a night club after being taunted for the own goal and the people he wouldn't take crap from were drug cartel thugs who don't put up with shit.

so they killed him.

Pablo was actually friends with the whole Columbian football team. thus, their stories were intertwined.

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fuck YOLO, kiss my TRAP, and "holy fuck I raged so hard last night!" or something....

loved the escobar documentary, haven't seen any others though . have the gretzky one on dvr though; need to get on top of this. i was really impressed by the one i saw.

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

Just wanted to add that I did find it a bit problematic how they depicted Pablo Escobar towards the end, having his felon scumbag cousin as well as his sister speak highly of him...along the lines of "under Pablo this murder would've never happened..those bad bad PEPEs, etc. etc.". It was a bit tasteless to sum up both deaths as victims of Pablo's Medellin rivals, thus "sharing the same destiny".
I wished they had counterbalanced this myth of a "necessary strong leader" to maintain order. Nevertheless, I rely on the average viewer's intelligence to take those statements with a grain (or more) of salt.

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