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Brandt Slater
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I'm not familiar with Ableton, but is there any kind of pre gain besides your input fader? How about attenuation? If you have a pre gain stage maybe try lowering that a couple db. And/or if there's an attenuator this is another way of lowering your incoming signal.

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Zak McKracken
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your original track might be clipping to start with. 0dB means no change. so if the original is clipping your will too when not changing anything.

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Teezdalien
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Does sound strange. Does it actually sound like it's clipping? I'd agree with Stu here and just place a compressor/limiter on the master, as long as you can live with the slight degradation in the audio.

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Excess
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That's always what I've done, but people have been complaining that it sounds too quiet when I play (especially since I don't have access to the speaker amps and I don't want to put the mixer deep into the red).


lol, what they really mean is you're not damaging their ears

seriously, every time i go out to the city my ears are ringing if i dont wear some kind of protection for my ears


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DJ_Rafnel
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lol, what they really mean is you're not damaging their ears

seriously, every time i go out to the city my ears are ringing if i dont wear some kind of protection for my ears


Same...esp at Webster Hall for some reason, i think it's the sub range in there. Never happens at Love though, but def Webster.


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Excess
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Same...esp at Webster Hall for some reason, i think it's the sub range in there. Never happens at Love though, but def Webster.


when richard durand closed at webster with his remix of born slippy, the sub was so loud you could hear that bouncing-ringing-pingpong-goodgodthissubistooloud-sound

i was so glad i got my earplugs in the mail that week lol


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Same...esp at Webster Hall for some reason, i think it's the sub range in there. Never happens at Love though, but def Webster.


I doubt it was the sub range. It's 9/10 usually the mid to high range frequencies that are doing the damage to your ears.

Our ears have a much higher tolerance to low frequencies and when possible you should always avoid standing in front of or near hanging speakers (eg in a pub or club) that are playing the mid range and high end frequencies.

Just my 2c.. Also fair play for bringing ear protection only way to truly reduce the damage without having direct access to turn the music down

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Teezdalien
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I doubt it was the sub range. It's 9/10 usually the mid to high range frequencies that are doing the damage to your ears.

Our ears have a much higher tolerance to low frequencies and when possible you should always avoid standing in front of or near hanging speakers (eg in a pub or club) that are playing the mid range and high end frequencies.


Actually that's not true. It is the sub-bass frequencies that cause the most damage.

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only way to truly reduce the damage without having direct access to turn the music down

Stand further away!


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DJ_Rafnel
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lol I don't know what causes more damage...but I do know my hearing is already screwed up enough in the Sub range.

I was tested a year back and the doc told me my perception of sub ranges vs high freq ranges is all out of whack. Something about my ears being way more sensitive to sub range and my ears not hearing the highs as much.

So that might be half the problem for me haha.


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Teezdalien
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Well really it's not the particular frequencies that cause damage but the volume in decibels. Damage starts to occur at about 85db I believe and become more dangerous the higher the volume gets over that level. The amount of time exposed to loud sound also plays a big part in how much damage occurs. Hearing loss first occurs in the upper-mids to high frequency range.
Sorry for getting a bit sidetracked here.

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