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JohnSmith
Agent Smith



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

Sorry mate, i only jest. there are tons of things that the government doesn't want you to know. it's up to you to judge reality for yourself, based on your own observations.

I can tell you the first and most valuable lesson that i have ever learned. here are a few different ways of putting it

My way:
I am ignorant of a great many things, and i have much to learn.

A paraphrased chinese proverb:
only a wise man knows how truly dumb he really is.
the dumb only think they are wise.

or, in the immortal words of some punk rock snarler:
"all i know is that don't know nuthin"!

but, there are things you can do to find out the truth. keep your eyes and ears open wide. believe only 1/4 of what you hear, and half of what you see. verify things for yourself, trust your intution.

here are some good websites to start uncovering what is really going on in this world.


http://www.fair.org/ fairness in reporting
http://www.projectcensored.org/ what they don't want you to know
http://www.thetruth.com/ an organization mostly dedicated to spreading the truth about tobbacco

these are only a start, you must find your own way.

and.. of course take these with a grain of salt, you never know, they may try to mislead you as well.

welcome to the game.

Old Post Jul-23-2002 19:38  Canada
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JohnSmith
Agent Smith



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

quote:
Originally posted by bluejay

i'm not amused


oh damn! i just realized you are from washington DC. that is the lying capital of the world! good luck trying to find the truth there.

Old Post Jul-23-2002 19:39  Canada
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bluejay
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Registered: May 2002
Location: washington, dc

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith


oh damn! i just realized you are from washington DC. that is the lying capital of the world! good luck trying to find the truth there.


lol...now i'm amused

Old Post Jul-23-2002 19:48  United States
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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

Well.. it is a little funny i guess in a superficial way.


but, if you think a little deeper about it. the lies of the USA are responsible for the misleading of a great many people in the country.

not to mention the death of many innocent people in countries abroad.

and it all starts in your little town, don't you feel honoured?

not so funny now is it?

Old Post Jul-23-2002 19:57  Canada
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bluejay
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Registered: May 2002
Location: washington, dc

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Well.. it is a little funny i guess in a superficial way.


but, if you think a little deeper about it. the lies of the USA are responsible for the misleading of a great many people in the country.

not to mention the death of many innocent people in countries abroad.

and it all starts in your little town, don't you feel honoured?

not so funny now is it?


no, it's still funny...i mean you actually trying to lecture me about not believing everything that i read/hear, yet you try to tell me the truth about how things are. it's REALLY funny actually if you think about it. but i guess what you have heard about the u.s. is most definitely truthful, especially about that part where "it all starts in my little town"...yeah, i can see you are very wise and intelligent man where i'm just so naive

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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

well.. you have a point, that i am naive as well. i don't think i know all the answers.

but, after 23 years on this planet, and quite extensive research, i have come to the conclusion that the USA is out for world domination, through methods such as the world bank.

but, hey, maybe your right. maybe that is just what they want me to think.

maybe it's some nice polish girl that is running it all from behind the scenes!

*points at Julie_Spyder*

there she is, grab her!

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halo99
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Denver, USA

I think there's a lot of stuff the government hides from us. a lot of it, as mentioned, may just be political decisions, but i'm sure there is stuff they don't want getting out.

my dad doesn't believe the Americans ever landed on the moon. while neither you or i can prove they did, they probably did. But you can't brush over the fact they might have put that out to be 1st in the space race...


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junis
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Den Haag, Netherlands

I believe that the government has already the technology to visit other solar systems, but are not telling it us.
They want to keep it for themselves.

Maybe this is because the world ain't ready for it yet, or maybe because they have been using it all the time for there own profits, so they would make a great scandal if it comes out to the public...

I don't know, and i'm affraid I will never be able to know the exact truth about how our system "realy" works..

Do you guy's think we will EVER be able to know the exact trutht??

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Nadi
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Californa,

I just think your all paranoid

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junis
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Den Haag, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
I just think your all paranoid


Then, I think, you are a little naive..

Old Post Jul-23-2002 22:22  Netherlands
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JohnSmith
Agent Smith



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

a few things.

in the immortal words of kurt cobain:

"Just because your paranoid, don't mean they're not after you"

also. ignorance is bliss, some people don't want to know.

eat up fishy.

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Nadi
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Californa,

quote:
Originally posted by junis


Then, I think, you are a little naive..


Im not saying that nothings being held from people. I am however saying that you guys are thinking of some really stupid stuff. I highly doubt people have traveled to other solar systems. I do agree that some stuff has not been told or not accuratly to the general public, but I dont think its as serious as some of you think

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