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saluyamo
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/dat...ents?intcmp=239

Old Post Jul-26-2010 06:04  Australia
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Wikileaks’ War Logs Highlight Global Intelligence Facade Of ‘War On Terror’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/wikilea...-on-terror.html
CIA funds ISI – ISI funds Taliban, Al Qaeda

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Two days before 9/11, the leader of the Afghan Northern Alliance, Commander Ahmad Shah Masood, was assassinated. The Northern Alliance informed the Bush Administration that the ISI was allegedly implicated in the assassination, stating:

“A `Pakistani ISI-Osama-Taliban axis’ [was responsible] of plotting the assassination by two Arab suicide bombers…. `We believe that this is a triangle between Osama bin Laden, ISI, which is the intelligence section of the Pakistani army, and the Taliban,”

Thus the Afghans that would be fighting on the side of the U.S. in the upcoming war after 9/11 are on record with their belief that the ISI and Al Qaeda are intimately connected. Yet the Bush administration began operating with Pakistan and the ISI as an ally.

Not even the corporate media could whitewash these facts and so explained it away by alleging that U.S. officials had sought cooperation from Pakistan because it was the original backer of the Taliban, the hard-line Islamic leadership of Afghanistan accused by Washington of harboring Bin Laden.

Then the so called “missing link” came when it was revealed that the head of the ISI was the principal financier of the 9/11 hijackers.


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Originally posted by iTranscendence
Wikileaks’ War Logs Highlight Global Intelligence Facade Of ‘War On Terror’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/wikilea...-on-terror.html
CIA funds ISI – ISI funds Taliban, Al Qaeda


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Politico's got a release out with the white house administration ripping Wikileaks for their irresponsibility. From the U.K.


Politico can fuck off. After Lizard, Iguana was was the only one of his half arsed attempts at producing anything decent.

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lol Mario Politico, Mauro Piccottos evil political brother.

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w_ashley
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Re: Wikileaks releases over 90,000 secret cables related to the war in Afghanistan!

I say this half heartedly -

If it is a national security risk to make the document - why make it?

You'd think that if people really needed to say something they could do it in a form that wasn't stored with 89,999 other files that are national security threats. I'd more so expect maybe that 1 file to be somewhere very safe - such as in delivery - then destroyed or altered in such as way that people wouldn't know what it was refering to.



The other points:

Either 1. US does not care about war crimes it commits
2. It really does feel guilty and wants to help others with the process of having the hauge backlogged.
3. The US is a miracle worker and relies on hope rather than intelligence.

4. Tom Clancey has been busy.

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quote:
Originally posted by iTranscendence
Wikileaks’ War Logs Highlight Global Intelligence Facade Of ‘War On Terror’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/wikilea...-on-terror.html
CIA funds ISI – ISI funds Taliban, Al Qaeda


yeah but the head of ISI was in washington and a known triple agent (British/American/Paki) -speaking with the sentate foreign intelligence committee when 911 happened.

He is the man the FBI pinned with 911 NOT Osama, it was tenet that wanted osama out of the way (saudi emir very powerful). why face three when you can face 1 at a time, or two rather than 3? Even better if you can turn one or two against the others. The US preplaned the gulf invasion in 1988. I've been spouting this junk for 10 years... if you havn't clued in yet after the mass propaganda of 2001 - maybe you'll soon clue in.

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Wikileaks founder thinks 911 conspiracy theorists are fuckwits.

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His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? "I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news." What about 9/11? "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.


http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/l...e-14880073.html

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w_ashley
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This is a good one.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/U.S._Inte...ks,_18_Mar_2008


There is something called an "injunction"

this is just stupid.

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Re: Re: Wikileaks releases over 90,000 secret cables related to the war in Afghanistan!

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Originally posted by ********
I say this half heartedly -

If it is a national security risk to make the document - why make it?

You'd think that if people really needed to say something they could do it in a form that wasn't stored with 89,999 other files that are national security threats. I'd more so expect maybe that 1 file to be somewhere very safe - such as in delivery - then destroyed or altered in such as way that people wouldn't know what it was refering to.


Thats the thing, any of these documents themselves alone do not constitute a threat to national security. It is the over all picture that they make that is the threat. It reflects operation procedures on the ground, that potentially are still the same and could end up being a threat to soldiers.

Remember as well ********, Canada and a dozen other countries are also in Afghanistan, and you haven't seen anything related to their operations. I have talked to a number of CF guys and most of them are just as crude and ready to shoot shit up as anyone in a branch of the US military.

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Wikileaks founder thinks 911 conspiracy theorists are fuckwits.



http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/l...e-14880073.html

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He is so creepy...

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