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Who will you be voting for this October?
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George Smitherman 4 11.11%
Giorgio Mammoliti 0 0%
Joe Pantalone 7 19.44%
Rob Ford 15 41.67%
Rocco Rossi 2 5.56%
Sarah Thomson 8 22.22%
Total: 36 votes 100%
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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

Christopher Hume's latest column in the Toronto Star (I wish he were in a position of power regarding urban development in Toronto, btw):

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/850171

quote:
If Rob Ford were anyone but Rob Ford, his dreams of becoming mayor of Toronto would be dead in the water.

But Rob Ford being what he is, his chances are better than ever.

This is the candidate whose every misstep brings him closer to his constituency. He can avoid the truth, break the rules, say stupid things, get arrested, charged, fined, and it really doesn’t matter to Ford’s supporters.

His opponents and the media can attack him all they like, but Ford’s people couldn’t care less.

Should they? Yes, of course. This is a man who would divide council, polarize the city and embarrass Toronto to no end.

But Ford supporters don’t give a damn. They’re mad as hell and they’re not going to take it any more.

Why should it bother them that in the course of 24 hours he would not tell the truth publicly about facing charges in Florida then state that trust is the only issue in the campaign?

That would have stopped a conventional candidate dead in his tracks. Look at what happened to Adam Giambrone.

Should it bother them that Ford, self-described family-man in a city that he says needs a family-man for mayor, was charged with assaulting his wife, though those charges were later dropped?

Earlier this week, Ford stood in front of the whole city — a city of immigrants — and announced that immigrants are no longer welcome here. Not only that — he got away with it.

Spoken by any other politician, such sentiments would have been the kiss of death. For believers, however, it wasn’t racist cant, but Rob telling it like it is.

Ford’s untruths might be harder to justify, but as he likes to say, “I never said I was perfect.”

No need to remind us of that; no politician has ever worn his limitations on his sleeve more than Ford. The man has made no bones about being a fool, an inarticulate dissembler with a weak grasp on reality, but this is a fool with momentum, a man-child on a mission.

To anyone who inhabits one of Toronto’s parallel non-Fordian universes, the prospect of his mayoralty is downright scary. It would set Toronto back years and make us a laughing stock, even to ourselves.

But again, those who would vote for Ford would not do so despite all this, rather because of it.

The rage against politicians, élites, experts, panels and the entire power structure has reached the point where many Torontonians do in fact trust Ford because they recognize themselves in him. He is angry; so are they. He’s confused; they are too. He feels as threatened by change as they do. He, too, is suspicious of things he doesn’t understand. He also rejects complexity and ambiguity. He is a black-and-white, no-nonsense kind of guy, full of bull and bluster in the tradition of Don Cherry, Harold Ballard, Mel Lastman….

And in a culture of civic impoverishment, Ford’s simple message that he alone is looking after taxpayers’ hard-earned money has great resonance. We’re constantly told we’re poor, and that the reason is our profligate councillors. Because of them, Toronto is broke.

This may be simplistic horse puckey, but so far it has worked. Ford has been the campaign’s major attraction and sideshow all in one.

His opponents will have to hope Ford’s candidacy unravels as revelations come out. But regardless how odious his behaviour has been, nothing has hurt him yet.

In the end, though, the thing about a Ford is that he brings out the worst in everyone, not just rivals. With friends like him, who needs enemies?

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

Id like to see the star do the same type of piece on Smitherman who's nickname Furious George is no accident. You want to see a divider in action? Vote Smitherman.

I was leaning toward rocco rossi as a great candidate until he took rob ford's comments at the debate and spun them around like everyone else did and blew them way out of context. In fact i even lambasted Rossi on his own facebook wall with the following:

My Facebook post:

"Rocco, ive been a fan of yours and considering your vote since day one. But I have to say that I am very upset by the spin being put on Rob Ford's comments. While he may not be the most articulate man at times, you and I both know that he was not saying that immigrants should stay out. He was talking about how overwhelmed our infrastructure is and how we cannot support a million more people when things now are already out of control. And he is right. This is why transportation is such a hot issue in this campaign.

Your intelligence level is far above the petty spin you are putting on this comment and i know that you know better. I am not sure I support Rob Ford, but Rocco, I am sorry to say that this sort of political spin here is turning me off of your vote.

Please reconsider taking us down this potentially damaging and dividing spin.

Thanks"

The response i have received from rossi's own supporters have been largely positive.

Is Ford divisive? Of course he is. But unlike smitherman, ford is about to take the fire hose and clean out the crap that has festered in city hall for years. Why do people like him? Because people know what they are getting in Ford. No surprises, not double talk, no spin. If Ford wins,I bet on him being a 1 term mayor. Which is exactly what is needed. Once that is done, bring in a more moderate manager to take care of the city.

Clean out the gutters and scoop up the dog shit. After that you bring in landscapers!

PS i still have a toronto address meaning i can still legally vote in toronto as long as i dont vote anywhere else.


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Lol News Talk 1010 is the best, Ryan Doyle is pretty good too after John Tory.


love these guys...i listen to Doyle religiously in the mornings...

anyways, is it bad that i like Ford more now after hearing his press conference? I also think he'd be better suited to replace Hazel....

Im still undecided on who I'll support...


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quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
Christopher Hume's latest column in the Toronto Star...


Aaaaaand... I've lost interest.


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quote:
Originally posted by 1dawoman
love these guys...i listen to Doyle religiously in the mornings...


Doyle is on at 7pm... do you mean John Moore?


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psyrel
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: TO, Canada

I attended the CP24 debate and couldn't believe just how clueless some candidates were. At the end of it all I still don't like any of them, can we get more (better) choices please?

Here's a review of it that's spot on and pretty funny.

The Fourth Mayoral Debate: Actual Debate Breaks Out
http://torontoist.com/2010/08/liveb...oral_debate.php

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by psyrel
I attended the CP24 debate and couldn't believe just how clueless some candidates were. At the end of it all I still don't like any of them, can we get more (better) choices please?

Here's a review of it that's spot on and pretty funny.

The Fourth Mayoral Debate: Actual Debate Breaks Out
http://torontoist.com/2010/08/liveb...oral_debate.php


Nice review To me this writer is an apologist for Smitherman. He barely critisized him if at all and saves most of his sarcasm for the right wing candidates. A little unbiased reporting would have been nice


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Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.

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Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.


he appeals to pissed off toronto taxpayers of all walks of life.


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‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Wow, I'm quite shocked to see that 46% of you would vote for Ford...I'd thought he only appealed to the old pissed-off suburban white people, certainly not the demographic I would have expected to comprise nearly half the folks on a trance/nightlife forum.


Well also keep in mind it's only 12 people out of 26 total voters. I'm sure that if all the apathetic TAs who haven't clicked a name yet actually did, the numbers would even out.

I dunno how anyone actually believed Smitherman had a chance... We just had a lying douchebag as Toronto mayor, why in the hell would another one be elected?


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quote:
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he appeals to pissed off toronto taxpayers of all walks of life.


just because he voted no on all expenditures does not mean he can lead this city.. if anything, it proves he can't!

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Jayx1
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quote:
Originally posted by mute79
just because he voted no on all expenditures does not mean he can lead this city.. if anything, it proves he can't!


we shall see i guess LOL


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‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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