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xtr3m
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver

Is the master on?



Turn it off.

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keithos27
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Atlanta

^why turn that off? with it on won't it lock in the key, regardless of bpm?


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keithos27
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Rerally? I thought there's a lot of shit advice in this thread.

1, Don't touch the platter when its coming out the master, only use the pitch and ride it. Aint that hard.

2, In fact you shouldn't rely on touching the platter even when it's not coming out the master as you'll get used to it/lazy when you have trouble and start touching it when it goes out. So top it. Just ride it.


Can you explain this a bit more, please?


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Shudder
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quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
^why turn that off? with it on won't it lock in the key, regardless of bpm?


i actually find it harder to mix with the master on. plus you can hear some kinda distortion in the beat.. i dunno how to explain it..


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Rodri Santos
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The master tempo is important if you are mixing in key and specially in trance or other genres who have a heavy bassline, in house it's not as important and you can turn it off.

With it enabled you can hear some distortion on some transitions, try to mix with virtual dj and keylock enabled and you'll see what we mean

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xtr3m
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Master tempo is more or less acceptable on CDJ-1000. On the 800's it tends to somewhat flatten the kicks, making it sound as if it skipped a beat once in a while. Have two CD's do that at the same time and you have quite a problem.

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Teezdalien
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Why don't you just stop for a bit, go out and listen/see some really good DJs that you like for some inspiration and then come back to it?


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Brandt Slater
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quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Why don't you just stop for a bit, go out and listen/see some really good DJs that you like for some inspiration and then come back to it?



^^^^+1 This.^^^^

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
Can you explain this a bit more, please?


OK - riding the pitch just consists of using the pitch fader to get the cue track to the right speed. So get good at dropping it at the right time and then just either pull or pull the pitch fader to get to the bpm.

You'll find at first you do large movements but as you close in on the right BPM, the movemnt back and forth get smaller and smaller until you have it locked.


Touching the platter is OK when it's just in the headphone but once the cue track is "live" coming out the master you should not touch the platter, because you can hear the obvious bend of the pitch, but you won't if you ride the pitch to get it in.

And frankly once you can pitch ride, there's no need to touch the platter ever.

Also the master tempo should be switched off. Anything higher than 2% and you'll get a distortion of the lower frequencies (especially the kick) that will muddy your mix.

you also don't need it - if you know what the percentages are in terms of semitone differences then the master becomes irrelevant as you can adjust accordingly.

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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Thanks for all of the advise. I'm going to keep practicing this mix, and post my best transition every day until I get it down. This is the first attempt from last night:

Subconscious Transition Take 1 by DJ Mike Huttman

Shudder is right about the Master Tempo thing. It sounds like there is some glitch or the kicks sound really "digital" when Master Tempo is on. It seems to work fine up to about +/- 2%, and then it gets weird.

I really want to say that I'm doing this for myself, and that I just want to be able to make some nice sounding mixes for the car or whatever. But I keep finding myself checking the stats on Mixcloud and Soundcloud, and wondering what I can do to get more traffic. I keep hearing the same 5 Dubstep tracks that the locals play everytime, and people are eating that shit up like they just heard it for the first time tonight (and these people go out to see these DJs all of the time.) There was one moment in particular two weeks ago at one of my local events. One of the friends of my best friend went up to him to get him to sign the event poster. She said "only my favorite DJs get to sign this" WHILE I WAS STANDING RIGHT THERE! I know I should be better than that petty shit and I kept my cool, but its been simmering in the back of my head since then and it hurts.

I want people to like me. I want to get threads with lots of "awesome! downloading now " and all of that jazz. No one likes being "bad" at something.


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Dojomaster26
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Subconscious Transition Take 2 by DJ Mike Huttman

I'm going to keep trying until I get it right. I think I panicked at the end of this one because it was starting to go way off. Also, I need to figure out why the volume keeps dipping when I switch baselines. The gains are at the same setting, and the tracks sound the same through the headphones. Maybe I need to compensate for that somehow by making the change more pronounced or something.

I'm tired of sucking at this. Where can I learn more about proper EQing and making sure the volume is correct?

I can't believe that I'm still BAD after this many years! I started mixing in 2006. Granted I had to take ~28 months off due to schooling, but that still gives me 2 years to be good at this by now


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Polt
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Boston, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
I'm tired of sucking at this. Where can I learn more about proper EQing and making sure the volume is correct?


Watch your levels as you mix. If you see them go down when they shouldn't, then its probably a good idea to bring either the overall volume or one of your EQs up. I usually think of EQing as a give and take. So if I raise the bass on track A, remove some of the frequencies on track B. It doesn't necessarily have to be the bass of track B.

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