how about you pay me back the $20 you owe me before ya blow it all on a mixer?

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i just wanted opinions on this mixer, not what mixer should i buy

thanks to those who posted an actual opinion on the mixer itself

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Sure looks good, but not sure about the quality. Something you should look out for in Stanton mixers is the crossfader. They can start to bleed. Pretty expensive though. Dont you think the RM3 would suffice? 4 phono and 8 lines is pretty useless. The most you are going to use is 2 or 3 phono. i still think that with vestax, you are getting your money's worth and not getting charged too much

i hardly ever use the crossfader when mixing... just to do the odd cut every now and then
most of the time my x-fader sits in the middle

as for the inputs, i would most definitely use them...
i'm looking for something that can be used in a production setting as well as a dj setting

i thought look for a mixer that has good sound quality and a lot of effects and inputs and i'm good to go
then i don't have to drop extra cash on a production mixing desk

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Actually the VRM-10 is a class apart. It's nothing like the other Stanton range. I can honestly say it's one of the best sounding mixers I've heard. It has a very warm sound (tubes anyone). Don't compare it to a DJM, try to take a listen to the VRM if you can. The effects are pretty good. It has a very effective parametric EQ. And the build quality is not shabby at all. The only thing that's awkward is they don't use reference output levels. But you're right, as good as this mixer might be, you can get mixers with a better price/quality ratio. As far as channels, I got a Xone:62, 6 channels. I can say I use them a lot (when I spin minimal music).

once again thanks for the input... once i can find someone that carries this mixer, i will definitely try it out and compare it to other mixers of this calibre

when it comes time to upgrade my mixer, i'm looking for sound quality (mainly for production purposes)
i will also shop around to see if i can get a better deal... cause if i was to drop that much cash on a mixer, i would go with a xone 464 or something like that
i just used that page as an example so people could see what i'm talking about

i honestly don't care if the djm is a good mixer... i've already read and heard people rave about it... i'm looking for something that is awesome that every single dj doesn't own... i like to explore new things instead of following the herd

plus the fact that the stanton vrm-10 looks like it has some nice effects

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Last edited by Tony Morello on Jul-26-2002 at 22:50

the 464 is really nice

did u get to use it that night @ my place(I dont remember!)


Hey tony, u want your speakers back or something?

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just curious what mixer you have now?

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The Stanton VRM-10 really is a fantastic mixer. The sound quality is just out of this world thanks to the valve amplifiers. The VU meters are just plain cool as well. You really have to see them. And I really like the silver finish and knobs.

Just look at the length of those faders! I'm a really big fan of long faders, you can get a much more accurate mix with longer faders. The problem with them though, is that they are extremely light. If you have the mixer at an angle then the faders actually slide down by gravity because they are so light! If you wanted it at an angle you would have to get the optional rotary knobs, which I would personally do anyway becuase I like rotary mixers.

The effects section appears to be of a good quality, with 16 different effects. Personally I don't really like on-board effects. Although they are convenient, you can get much better outboard effects units that have better quality and more different effects, that you just connect up with the effects send-return loop.

The headphone monitoring is a bit poor though - all there is, is basic "either it's in the headphones or it's not" type cueing. You can turn PFL on and off for each channel, but there is no split cue or cue pan feature (i.e. mix in the headphones between master output and PFL).

Basically, it's a top notch, high quality mixer, but there are a couple of things you need to consider before going out and buying it. Oh yeah, and it's damned expensive too!

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Originally posted by DJTJ The Stanton VRM-10 really is a fantastic mixer. The sound quality is just out of this world thanks to the valve amplifiers. The VU meters are just plain cool as well. You really have to see them. And I really like the silver finish and knobs. Just look at the length of those faders! I'm a really big fan of long faders, you can get a much more accurate mix with longer faders. The problem with them though, is that they are extremely light. If you have the mixer at an angle then the faders actually slide down by gravity because they are so light! If you wanted it at an angle you would have to get the optional rotary knobs, which I would personally do anyway becuase I like rotary mixers. The effects section appears to be of a good quality, with 16 different effects. Personally I don't really like on-board effects. Although they are convenient, you can get much better outboard effects units that have better quality and more different effects, that you just connect up with the effects send-return loop. The headphone monitoring is a bit poor though - all there is, is basic "either it's in the headphones or it's not" type cueing. You can turn PFL on and off for each channel, but there is no split cue or cue pan feature (i.e. mix in the headphones between master output and PFL). Basically, it's a top notch, high quality mixer, but there are a couple of things you need to consider before going out and buying it. Oh yeah, and it's damned expensive too!

a thousand thank yous


ok, now i have an idea what i'm looking at
the headphone cueing isn't my biggest prioity... cue pan is a nice feature to have, but i can mix without it

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i actuall did alot of research on this matter becuase i was choosing between the vrm-10 and the xone 62.

vrm-10 sounds really good and i thought it would be a good complement to my valve amps. they also use penny&giles faders so the faders [and rotary option faders] are silky smooth and very long.

adressing the stanton reputation and build quality issue: i think the vrm-10 is built by another company for staonton. the quality is excellent.

you get the vrm-10 for its effects, frankly

when it came down to the line, i decided that i dont want effects. i thought filters were more elegant so i decided on getting the a&h.

alittle research for you:
http://www.futureproducers.com/foru...10&pagenumber=2

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Originally posted by Dj Thy Frankly it's one of the greatest sounding mixers I've ever heard. It really comes close to Xones (which are in my opinion still better), but the price tag is very very hefty. Faders are really nice, sound quality is great, effects and filter are good. And of course the parametric EQ is really handy. The metering system takes some time adapting to (gives and indication about average volume, so you want those meters to slowly hover around the optimal range). The only thing that's weird on this mixer is the output voltage. They use strange references. You see, most consumer devices (read budget mixers) have an output of -10 dBV. Pro devices work on +4dBu. On the VRM-10 you can choose, but their references are 0dBu and +6dBu, so for installators it may seem weird, most pro amps are designed for +4dBu. So either the amp will work at high amplifications (knobs turned all the way up) or in the case of +6dBu output, you'll have to take care not to overload the amp. As for famous dj's... Tiesto uses a VRM-10. He doubted between this mixer and a Xone. But in his opinion the EQ slope of the A&H was too steep (he's got a point at a certain extent, but then he should have let it modify like Hawtin did).

http://www.futureproducers.com/foru...highlight=vrm10

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Originally posted by Sniff Anyways i had it for about a month and that month was a great. The mixer performed well, sounded amazing, and just had so many *useful* features effects etc that i dont think it would be possible to outgrow the mixer or ever truly beat the learning curve. I love the eq section, while though it doesnt have full kills, it has the parametric sweep on the mid which allows you to pull stuff right out into the mix. The curves were really sweet. Not like the sledgehammer i had to go back to. The mixer required a very precise style, between the eq and the gains it is easy to clip, so you get very exact, and it shows when you play on something else. anyways onece i get it back i will write a longer description, but from what i have seen so far, its all good. It just feels good. It is impossible for anyone, dj, non-dj, gear whore or purist to approach it without touching it and going oi!thats nice. I never got a chance to install the rotaries though they finally arrived (ouch duty hurts) so i really have something to look forward to. [...] i dont know how useful it is, but the unit does have a completely assignable cross fader - any channel can be assiged to either side and an adjustable curve, and the fader is very smooth. though very long. all the faders have almost no resistance, if you prop the unit up a too much of an angle, gravity takes the faders down. trippy, frighteningly smooth.

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from sniff As for the stanton Build quality is phenomenal. The unit will never die thru use. Sound is remarkable, as i said, we put it up against a xone 64 and it rocked, the sound is very warm and deep, the eqs are sweet as well, but there is much you can do with the board, that i am still riding the learning curve.

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it's very good
it sounds perfect

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Originally posted by Fresh I use a Pioneer DJM 500 which i personally think is one of the best mixers around and it has everything i need Isn't she lovely?

Ahhh, another person who is in love with their pioneer. Sod gay marriages, they should let us marry mixers instead!