I was a dj. I can easily hear something and understand how it will translate to the dance floor. I've seen hundreds of djs make people dance only because the people were all really fucking high.

Get them high enough and they will even dance to Stars of the Lid:

Tribal, imo.



I suppose I would say tribal is a lot like darkpsy, just without really fast rolling basslines/squelchy synth sounds/crying children/screams of death/etc. After you get rid of that stuff, throw in some really repetitive but natural sounding percussion and middle-eastern/Indian vocal samples. Native American sounding stuff works really well too, especially with tambourines.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It starts with wanting just some tribal elements in your trance and ends with you listening to deep house, while wearing a smoking jacket.

Holy shit. You just described me exactly.

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Originally posted by Nick Cenik Is there such thing as 'tribal-trance'? Anyways, this is an example of what I call 'tribal-tech house': Nick Cenik - 1 42am (Original Mix) [INCORRECT MUSIC]

Thats a pretty technically proficient track. Rare to hear tech house of that quality on here.

Tribal is all about polyrhythms, ethnic vocals, short loops and percussion layers.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Thats a pretty technically proficient track. Rare to hear tech house of that quality on here.

Thanks a lot Kit!! A friend recently shared some tips/tricks with me so I've been able to really step up the quality of my productions. Plus I spent a lot of time trying to get 1:42am sounding as best as possible

(Shameless promotion: ) Beatport link for the tune is in my sig ...

I know what you mean DJ Robby Rox, you're after a more intelligent beat/percussion element and adding tribal elements this can definatley help a beat.

I like Nicks track, if you put together tech house/techno and a touch of funky you will probably find what you are after and these tracks will have more energy than just listening to one of those single genres, Wally Lopez and Joris Voorn mix this style in most of their sets, Joris is more techno though.

Check it out a good WL set below.

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I'm exploring mixing a trancier element in to this style which will probably mean adding some bigger synths but keeping to the more is less methodology.

Actually I just made a post on how to create these types of beats so join in on that thread if you like.

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Robby - this guy is the king of stripped back tribal - his toms are the tightest ever - I've been trying to get toms like this for a year - not easy at all.

He's in SanFransico.

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I don't think you can go straight from tribal tech house and mix it with trance. You have to work more from the basis of Dub techno IMO, like basic channel style shit, and push those rhythms back into trance.

Of course, you'll have to drop the supersaws and stuff and work a lot more syncopation into the plucks to make it sound convincing, but you'll probably get there eventually.

Trying to fuse tech house and trance is like trying to make a blackish shade of white, they're completely opposed. Tech house is all about the funk, a sort of "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Its a really off the cuff, emotionless style, perfect for sitting around having a few drinks with your friends. Trance (should be) about getting lost in the music, caught between the layers of pads and basses. Its much more emotional and sounds like it takes itself seriously and cares. Which is why it works better with dub techno IMO.

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Trying to fuse tech house and trance is like trying to make a blackish shade of white, they're completely opposed. Tech house is all about the funk, a sort of "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Its a really off the cuff, emotionless style, perfect for sitting around having a few drinks with your friends. Trance (should be) about getting lost in the music, caught between the layers of pads and basses. Its much more emotional and sounds like it takes itself seriously and cares. Which is why it works better with dub techno IMO.

Good explanation Out of curiosity, how would you differentiate Tribal Tech House and standard Tech House using the aforementioned terminology?

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Originally posted by LoWahn Good explanation Out of curiosity, how would you differentiate Tribal Tech House and standard Tech House using the aforementioned terminology?

Well, I think you could take the tribal elements from tribal tech house and put them into a trance context, but I don't think you could take the tech house elements. So what I was saying, was that if you wanted to take tribal elements from somewhere, you'd be better off taking them from more dub techno sounds, rather than from tech house sounds. Thought I should clarify that.

Tribal tech house is like this


This is more the tribal sound used in dub techno occasionally (although not all dub techno is tribal influenced)


So the obvious differences are that dub techno is a bit more emotive to me, its a bit more serious, its a bit more inclined to get you lost. Tribal tech house is a bit more off the cuff, it doesn't really care what anyone thinks of it as much, but its got some bursts of emotion. Overall, its a flatter genre, it doesn't try to take you on a journey or really engage you emotionally. Dub techno is more inclined to do those things.

Bear in mind that I'm not saying that tech house is bad for not taking itself seriously or being emotive, that sort of vibe definately has its place.

Its worth considering when you're making this stuff that tech house is about 15 BPM slower than trance on average, which gives the grooves more room to swing. To do this in trance, you need some strong polyrhythmic grooves going on, and maybe to drop the BPM down to something closer to prog (127-134 or so).

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I love this Track, It's like 3 Tracks in 1!

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couple of my all time favorite tracks, got them on vinyl too. i call them tribal because they make my adrenaline pump like im gonna fight a lion in africa or something but im not sure of the definition of tribal lol.

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