YOu're absoltely right about them being the same.

I always liked ASUS, but the one I'm writing this from is a pain in the arse sometimes. In fairness it's a vista laptop that i installed XP on (obviously) and it's never been happy, but apparently it's worse under win7 so this is as good as it gets.

ASUS are cvnts about drivers as well, so when you have to reformat, they make you go through all this bullshit just to get to the right one.
The onyl other thing I have against them is that when you buy a new one, if you're using it for audio, you're going to have to format it and start again because they include all these built in programs such as the ASUS software downloader which there is no need for as ASUS only really update their shit every 6M to a year but still they leave you with a resource hog for those seldom moments. And you can't remove it!

I will say build quality is good and I've given this thing quite a kicking, a lot of travelling and it still doesn't look bad. The performance has been OK.

I think what a lot of people don't understand is currency vs the mac debate.

In the USA and some parts of Europe Apple are basically the same price as normal PC laptops (although there aren't cheap version to compare) to whereas in down under, it's at least 50% more when comparing like for like.

I think this is the latest 15":

http://www.NotebookReview.com/defau...eview=asus+g51j

and this is the latest 17":

http://www.NotebookReview.com/defau...=asus+g73+g73jh

Yea, and I didn't think about price. Apple in the USA is relatively the same cost as a Windows PC, so it was a wash for me.

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Went with the Dell Studio XPS 16 and it arrived yesterday.

Fantastic laptop, so happy with the buy. The design of it is fantastic.
I'm happy to say that Serato SL3 has had no issues with the i5 so far which was the biggest concern for me.
Dell have certainly gotten better with the bloatware but I'll still most likely do a fresh Win7 install once I've figured out what I want to keep.

Once that's done, I'll stick Ableton Live 8 on as well and test out the Bridge for those in that other thread who wanted to know how well it worked. Will even throw in the APC40 for good measure.

Funny thing was dad had a look at it and went "I love the macbook kind of styling on it"

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get mac, avoid all soundcard issues. did try to install a soundcard on win7 today and boy was that hell. im never going back.

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Originally posted by Fledz Went with the Dell Studio XPS 16 and it arrived yesterday. Fantastic laptop, so happy with the buy. The design of it is fantastic. I'm happy to say that Serato SL3 has had no issues with the i5 so far which was the biggest concern for me. Dell have certainly gotten better with the bloatware but I'll still most likely do a fresh Win7 install once I've figured out what I want to keep. Once that's done, I'll stick Ableton Live 8 on as well and test out the Bridge for those in that other thread who wanted to know how well it worked. Will even throw in the APC40 for good measure. Funny thing was dad had a look at it and went "I love the macbook kind of styling on it"

Congrats but just make sure you kept the receipts and box. Not trying to shit on the parade but I just read a ton of reviews on that laptop for mate and people have have serious problems, for some reason, after about a month of use. Worked perfectly when they first geet it then things start going wrong.... everything from no responding keys to multiple crashes. However, you know what you're doing and I always consumer reviews about crashing computers with a giant fist full of salt as most of the time it's user error etc.

But yeah, I really don't miss driver bollox since switching to mac for my main audio rig.

Of course, mind you most of the problems were with the 1645 build, where as this is the 1647. Plus they released updated BIOS a few months back which helped a lot.
Also, most the problems in terms of throttling and overheating were with the i7s, not with the i5s.

KR - What sound card issues? It runs directly through SL3 over USB, not through the internal soundcard.
My production PC has a TI firewire chip anyway.

Remember, this is just a DJing laptop. My actual production desktop is completely separate

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you will see in a year's time or so why Dell is a POS. I've mostly heard only bad things about dell, but you get what you pay for, shitty hardware = bad quality overall.

Macbook pro. Its by far the best laptop. Low maintenance, dont have to install driver,s stable, unlikely to get viruses. 90% of the pros use macbook pro.

I c people blowing through pcs like every other year on avg. Macbooks last a lot longer.

You get what u pay for.

^^ the above poster is a tool

^^^ the above poster needs to get laid

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd ^^ the above poster is a tool

What's your beef?

Just curious. It's always aimed at discobiscuit?
Apart from the pro comment his points were actually valid enough so i'm just curious..