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Originally posted by spiderpig Have you considered using Logic btw? It's a powerhouse and I def recommend having a look at it before you jump into ableton. I know you mentioned wanting to be able to collabo with PC users, but that's kind of irrelevant. There's many ways you can do this. Just because you have a Mac (and mac only software) doesn't mean you can't work with others that are using a PC. Not every producer out there has a Mac, how do you think they collaborate with producers that do..? I've been using Logic for a couple of years now and I can't tell you how amazing it is. Anyway, if you're looking for that full, robust audio production program, I would say give Logic a shot.

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It's pretty easy and quick to bounce down any audio parts you wanna share while working with someone. So having a different DAW won't stop you from collaborating with your buddies.

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I should've been more specific. "applications" you can get almost all on both windows and mac os..meh.. let's not make this a debate as he previously mentioned

no one is debating anything, i am simply pointing an inaccurate, misleading statement you made

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Although Ableton can be a easier tool to learn quickly, and you'll probably be able to get some results sooner. But if you put the time into Logic you'll be happier down the road.

true words ^^. logic is the one true "out of the box" solution.

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Originally posted by bcope true words ^^. logic is the one true "out of the box" solution.

I personally alternate in between Live and Logic - Generally I start in Live and once I've got a good framework I move things over to Logic.

My only advice is to stick to AU and leave VST the hell alone, the stability improvements I've noticed within my hosts is unbelievable.

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Originally posted by LKD If i could afford a mac, I'd get one and run win7 off it

So do I, and ironically Windows has never run better. Nice one, Microsoft.