It is a sad state... esp with proliferation of 'laptop DJs' that clearly have zero DJing skills but a jukebox.

If you want to get noticed, start producing. It's pretty much only way you'll get noticed

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

worst part of the scene unfortunately. i agree with others, i understand it, but hate to get tied into it. try to avoid as best i can.

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Originally posted by Yohan It is a sad state... esp with proliferation of 'laptop DJs' that clearly have zero DJing skills but a jukebox. If you want to get noticed, start producing. It's pretty much only way you'll get noticed

Richie Hawtin, Chris Liebing, Dubfire = laptop DJs

Don't think that's the problem.


Let's be honest for a second - good DJs are a dime a dozen these days; and so are shit DJs that bring a ton of people. Believe it or not promoters do care about talent (some much more than others) - but I don't care who it is when it's your money on the line breaking even is always priority number one. Nobody wants to book a lazy local who won't put the word out to help make the night a success, and if you want to stand out (without producing) focus on both being a fantastic DJ that brings a lot of people. End of story.

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Laptop DJ is just a phrase people throw around without actually meaning "a dj with a laptop", which I think is silly. The only people that still shit talk laptops are the ones that haven't actually used one yet. And I don't mean looking over someone's shoulder as they're playing, I mean tried & tested at an actual gig with people.

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I've been trying my hand at throwing my own parties over the past few months and I can say that as long as you don't lose too much money, you're doing alright

That said, if you're trying to build a brand then there's no room for compromise. Take the hit for the first few months and really stick it out, get your name out there. Let people know and understand the kind of night you're trying to build and it will work out. Or not. Kind of depends on your market

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Originally posted by Yohan It is a sad state... esp with proliferation of 'laptop DJs' that clearly have zero DJing skills but a jukebox. If you want to get noticed, start producing. It's pretty much only way you'll get noticed

Rubbish.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien Rubbish.

Only some of it is. He does have a point about the production side. If you really want to get somewhere today you really have to contribute back in some way. Start a night, start a label, make music, do something other than DJ because unfortunately, anyone can do it nowadays whether or not their taste level is up to snuff.

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Originally posted by bas Only some of it is. He does have a point about the production side. If you really want to get somewhere today you really have to contribute back in some way. Start a night, start a label, make music, do something other than DJ because unfortunately, anyone can do it nowadays whether or not their taste level is up to snuff.

That's actually a good point about putting on events. I didn't regard production in that sense in my initial post. In my experience, you don't need to be making music if you're throwing good parties.

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Originally posted by idoru The OP obviously has no experience when it comes to throwing parties.

Why?

Ive been running my own monthly bi/monthly night for over 2 years

I have had 1 release a couple of years ago- and its pretty shit - i also sell tickets to gigs im booked to play - so i would classify myself as a promoter dj!

I was just asking if its the same the world over.

Surely with Dubfire/Digweed n Vath on the bill that would be enough to get the club full and you could put on a more qualified dj to do warm up duties?

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Last edited by Light The Fuse on Oct-24-2010 at 23:17

I've actually found that to be the case - when it comes to true A-list guys promoters usually do rely more on tried and trusted DJs for quality sound than numbers. Problem is those DJs most likely got their foot in the door through the numbers initially.. Nobody walks into a John Digweed opening gig without paying their dues.

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yeah I've already abandoned a facebook account because I moved cities a couple times and it just gets spammed so friggin hard every weekend that I can't handle it.

Every goddammed party in 3 cities, every time there is a party, ugh

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse Surely with Dubfire/Digweed n Vath on the bill that would be enough to get the club full and you could put on a more qualified dj to do warm up duties?

Because your bar is open during the warm-up set. The more packed the venue, the more money the venue takes in at the bar. The venue will always love that and, assuming that this is a venue that gives a cut of the bar to promoters, it means more money back to them. It puts the promoter in good standing with the venue ("Fuck, the guy that threw the show here last week couldn't get 50 people until 11:30, but last night there were 100 by 10:30!") and it allows the promoter the ability to continue doing what they're doing.