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Originally posted by Ravemontreal We don't play 130 bpm, I don't like it. I never go over 127 bpm. But it doesn't get darker than what I do. or Monoloc.

Just curious, what don't you like about 128 - 135 bpm?

When you go on an 8 hours ride and you play as dark as I do, with some sounds that are distorted and raw, 130 bpm feels like 135.

By experience, 125-127 is the sweet spot for me to take people anywhere without burning them out. You stay sexy no matter how hard you play. You can just bop your head instead of feeling like your feet or your brain can't follow.

In Montreal, you can easily find yourself with an empty room at 6 am if you are not careful about making your crowd conformtable, and they are very sensitive to music that drains too much energy.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal When you go on an 8 hours ride and you play as dark as I do, with some sounds that are distorted and raw, 130 bpm feels like 135. By experience, 125-127 is the sweet spot for me to take people anywhere without burning them out. You stay sexy no matter how hard you play. In Montreal, you can easily find yourself with an empty room at 6 am if you are not careful about making your crowd conformtable, and they are very sensitive to music that drains too much energy.

I do find myself giving a higher bpm to techno songs that I hear and always pretty suprised when I find out what it actually is. I wonder what aspects of a song creates this audio "illusion"?

Why do you think the crowd can't handle higher bpm now? Is it really because they will be tired? I kind of doubt it because why are people tired now and not 5-6 years ago? Must be deeper than that but I don't know how how to explain it

It is easily explainable by the fact that 10 or 15 years ago we were ALL a young crowd. Today, even if we manage to convert a few young kids, the crowd can range 18-35. The old ones have already a lot of years in this scene. They are tired. If you lose the older ones, or the girls by playing too fast and relentlessly, you end up with an empty room.

Also, techno music was energy driven because it was bad music. Today, production level is much higher and much more enjoyable at lower bpm

Last edited by Ravemontreal on Oct-27-2010 at 02:32

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal It is easily explainable by the fact that 10 or 15 years ago we were ALL a young crowd. Today, even if we manage to convert a few young kids, the crowd can range 18-35. The old ones have already a lot of years in this scene. They are tired. If you lose the older ones, or the girls by playing too fast and relentlessly, you end up with an empty room. Also, techno music was energy driven because it was bad music. Today, production level is much higher and much more enjoyable at lower bpm

Production level has definately gone up but has also led to a abundance of redundant music. I think the chance of pulling out a gem 10 years ago and pulling one out now has not changed for the better. It should be the opposite since there is more access to production software and much more easier to distribute music. The quality of the music might be lacking compared to todays standards but the creativity is what made it stand out. Either way I don't think it will be making a comeback anytime soon. Atleast the old school are still around and have adapted to the new sound without losing touch with their roots. CLR harbours a lot of those guys

steve, the drug of choice has changed and the music has followed suit.

the "i'm going to rave so fucking hard" mentality has been over for a long time, and the kids replacing us on the dance floors are used to slower music.

music is getting slower in other genres too...not just electronic music.

I love slower stuff, most of the tracks I have are 122-126.. because tracks at that speed have a groove, sexiness like you said...130's too fast for me for every day listening, but I had a hell of a lot of fun at Yoji in Toronto, even the opener Deko-Ze was playing some hard techno and it was a lot more fun then I thought it'd be, in an afterhours kinda setting. He was at 132-135 the whole night, maybe a little higher? But yeah, slower music is my thing.

Maybe I'll go see Creator.

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go see creator. he is a good dj. he knows how to set a mood, and even though i might not be into his sound right now, you don't build a night on a local guy in 3 different clubs (yes he invites internationals, but you get my point) without him having a clue

when he sucked (sorry) the website carried him, but the website is gone, he is still going strong, it most likely means he is doing something right.

don't think i'm kissing ass martin, you need moar cowbell.

A lot of tracks on huge labels like ostgut ton, clr, sonic groove(my favourite) sound pretty crazy at 126-127.... when some of them are originally 130.

5 bpms in a club is nowhere near as noticeable as when you listen at home.

in a club you are there to get down, you aren't tapping your foot and looking at your watch

due hast mich du frag.

sven was one of the best aria nights ever...and to be honest the pills were the only thing that made his shoddy mixing bearable.

in a club you don't notice shit, you just fist pump like a jersey shore cast member on paycheck day.

lol what are you talking about, most people can notice a difference of 1 bpm as long as they have a general understanding of electronic music.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay 5 bpms in a club is nowhere near as noticeable as when you listen at home. in a club you don't notice shit, you just fist pump like a jersey shore cast member on paycheck day.

Maybe you don't, I pay a lot of attention in clubs. I've definitely noticed BPM shifts before, and 5 bpm is pretty significant. Changes the whole vibe of a party.