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Kev Boy
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by alexlosy
This is something we just have to accept. It's like everything in life - it is not always fair.

Ignorance is bliss - as they say!


Very true...it's jus annoying when people tell you that so and so is the greatest ever when its just pop music they are making.

I went to see Tiesto in London in July and left early, it was not good. Lots of pop then lots of horrible horrible electro. Compare that to some of the gigs he has done say 5 or 6 years ago, I think he is bullshitting when he says he doesn't lik the trance sound anymore. He is just targetting a diff audience now and cashing in even more.

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alexlosy
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Oxford

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Originally posted by Kev Boy
Very true...it's jus annoying when people tell you that so and so is the greatest ever when its just pop music they are making.

I went to see Tiesto in London in July and left early, it was not good. Lots of pop then lots of horrible horrible electro. Compare that to some of the gigs he has done say 5 or 6 years ago, I think he is bullshitting when he says he doesn't lik the trance sound anymore. He is just targetting a diff audience now and cashing in even more.


As frustrating it is to you, me and many others though, there are more people that do seem to like his new style than people who do not like it.

I think people should leave him be, like they leave 50 cent and other artists they like, alone.

As frustrating as it is, he has made a choice and prospered from it. Given the chance, wouldn't many of us choose to do the same thing? I think that the answer is that some would, some wouldn't.

My only real view point is that no one person is bigger than the scene. Just because Tiesto has decided to move away from trance, it doesn't mean that there is a big tiesto shaped gap left. The scene is so saturated these days that there is at least some quality and thoughtful music out there despite having to traul through the mountains of turd that they lie beneath!


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Kev Boy
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: UK

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Originally posted by alexlosy
As frustrating it is to you, me and many others though, there are more people that do seem to like his new style than people who do not like it.

I think people should leave him be, like they leave 50 cent and other artists they like, alone.

As frustrating as it is, he has made a choice and prospered from it. Given the chance, wouldn't many of us choose to do the same thing? I think that the answer is that some would, some wouldn't.

My only real view point is that no one person is bigger than the scene. Just because Tiesto has decided to move away from trance, it doesn't mean that there is a big tiesto shaped gap left. The scene is so saturated these days that there is at least some quality and thoughtful music out there despite having to traul through the mountains of turd that they lie beneath!


Agree with everything said again.

Old Post Nov-02-2010 13:18  United Kingdom
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Scrittah
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I wish more people followed their instincts rather than the scene.


The problem with this thinking is that Electro-House is what's "in" right now. There's a chance that Tiesto is legitimately more interested in a more of a House sound, but there's also a good chance that that's just where the money is.


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Rodri Santos
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Location: Milan

besides he likes electro house or not i think the edm scene is turning to a mixture of house & trance, Lady Gaga , Kylie Minogue and more pop artists sound now trancey. Ironically i find that Tiësto has the sound most up to date, trance & electro house driving along.

Still if he thinks trance is dead on him...




-Trance* bassline
-Dreamy vocals perfect for unicorn trance
-And @3:15 or so.. Dutch Supersaw style lead!


*According to what trance is called now

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xCTx
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Registered: Aug 2010
Location: NYC

Tiesto's Club Life 187 (last weeks show) was primarily trance. If he "moved" on from it, I know he wouldn't be dropping it in his radio shows. I know he still got love for it. He's just moving in a new direction yet he still seems to carry trance elements into his sets too. People are trippin

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Stories
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
besides he likes electro house or not i think the edm scene is turning to a mixture of house & trance, Lady Gaga , Kylie Minogue and more pop artists sound now trancey. Ironically i find that Tiësto has the sound most up to date, trance & electro house driving along.

Still if he thinks trance is dead on him...




-Trance* bassline
-Dreamy vocals perfect for unicorn trance
-And @3:15 or so.. Dutch Supersaw style lead!


*According to what trance is called now


I fail to see how this is anything but Euro Pop/Dance Pop.


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BlueSky
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It's a bit weird to me that a guy who mixed these:
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...th/master/18768
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...ll/master/10705
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...RAI/master/5087
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...d/release/35653
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...m/release/36132
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ti%C3%ABs...s/release/33200

.. is now making tracks with Nelly Furtado and Three6Mafia and playing gay-electro trash. I simply don't get it. At all.


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Rodri Santos
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mainstream trance is almost pop, check AvB singles to catch an idea.

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floyd741
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Location: Chicago

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Originally posted by BlueSky
It's a bit weird to me that a guy who mixed these:

.. is now making tracks with Nelly Furtado and Three6Mafia and playing gay-electro trash. I simply don't get it. At all.

I feel the same way about Paul van Dyk. He made such excellent music in the 90's. Except he's not going to the electro route, he just sucks.


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BlueSky
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Registered: Jul 2008
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If we compare todays Tiesto and todays Paul van Dyk, I'd chose the second. Ur right - his sets and his music are not spectacular as his late 90's/early 00's era, but sometimes he makes some decent ones (Live at Club Space Miami at WMC this year). Way better than Tiesto.


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However, EDM seems to be political for some people - it's not about the music itself but it's about what the music symbolises, where the music came from, who spins it and how obscure it is.

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samblackhole
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Registered: Nov 2010
Location: Perth, Australia

The thing is, that imho, when I hear "Tiesto", I belive it would be something like Tiesto some years ago. That isn't the case, unfortunately. Same for AvB and PvD, but not that bad.
Look, Tiesto hast been at the LoveParade 2006 and than he hasn't been invited anymore, after McFit bought it. Now, after his style change, he was good enough for it in 2010. I didn't see his gig, as I knew that his new style sucks. But I've been to that LoveParade: Which sucked too.
But seriously, if he wants to change the style, he should change his name, too, as he did it for tracks with other producers (Gouryella, Alibi)
Tiesto stands for trance. It breaks my heart, when I see what is happening with this name now.

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