I disagree. Saying no kills that bridge. They will never come back. That is why you need people that can do your work if you are swamped. PAss the work to a colleague. You don't even have to keep it a secret. You're answer should never be no. Not in the music business, not in the internet business. Even if your friend does the website, they will remember you making it happen and you will get the future business.

Saying no does not make you look pro, it makes you look like an asshole. Of course there are limits but if it is a respectable client, then the answer is yes. The yes part is that I can help you get this done. how it happens, well that is up to you and your connections. You have nothing to gain by saying no.

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I've never really lost a client thus far. Just some independent jobs. They just put the job somewhere else and come back later because they're unhappy about the others.

This includes small time developers as well as multi million $ worldwide companies and local governments.

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Develop a network of equally talented people. You send them work when they are not busy, they send you work. That is how the world works.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Tighten the downside?

I guess that works too.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad Develop a network of equally talented people. You send them work when they are not busy, they send you work. That is how the world works.

I agree. Unfortunately I don't come across them too often. I'd rather say no than not live up to the job or pass it on to someone I don't trust. The clients usually know exactly why I have to decline on a job. This time the moot point is actually incompetence of the clients. Unrealistic deadlines (because of the design phase took weeks too long) and actually a concept that is doomed to fail even before it is ever launched. I'll pass and let someone else take the fall on this.

Also, I think the working culture in America is quite different than the european working morale. Same applies for music vs internet industry, right?

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Originally posted by MSZ cool thread bro

Haha.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad I disagree. Saying no kills that bridge. They will never come back. That is why you need people that can do your work if you are swamped. PAss the work to a colleague. You don't even have to keep it a secret. You're answer should never be no. Not in the music business, not in the internet business. Even if your friend does the website, they will remember you making it happen and you will get the future business. Saying no does not make you look pro, it makes you look like an asshole. Of course there are limits but if it is a respectable client, then the answer is yes. The yes part is that I can help you get this done. how it happens, well that is up to you and your connections. You have nothing to gain by saying no.

I've learned the slightly harder way that if you cannot honour a promise, despite your best intentions, you should ALWAYS say no!

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