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Originally posted by Magnetonium Russia's not so high in the list, what are you talking about, LOL ... they are ranked 150-something, thats just above Kyrgyzstan and just below Iran. Not a good place to be in comparison.

I was being facetious.

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as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by pozz Ye, and corporate redtape is so much cleaner. corruption is not only to do with governments man.

not saying it does. But corporate corruption (by a single company) is nowhere near as encompassing as government corruption.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

You sound just like my parents, its very scary actually

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Originally posted by Magnetonium You sound just like my parents, its very scary actually

lol! well they understand the system like i do i guess.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

And do Canadians ever care about what the government does? No. Theyre passive pussies.

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Originally posted by geroin compared to what i've witnessed living in eastern europe, canada is complete 180 in terms of corruption and bribery.

+ a lot

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Originally posted by chinamon who the fuck typed out this list?

The same who typed out Koreon.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 as i said, corruption here is institutionalized so we dont call it corruption. We call it doing business. But make no mistake that the only difference is that its done via legal channels. And remember that the government pretty much has the power to make anything legal (and illegal). Just something to think about when these cozy little surveys come out.

I blame parliamentary democracy. makes lobbying so much easier. corruption isnt just institutionalized -- its generated by business and government. its the underside of the official functioning, not some aberration or appropriated anomaly. you cant even separate government from business anymore -- and you cant separate either of these from the "business" of corruption. it include both the underhanded shit done by legal channels and all the stuff that is done by unofficial channels, all the networks of communication and exchange that are not officially recognized or dealt with. corruption is a way to deal with the enormous structures of control, ones so pervasive that they include all of business and all of government.

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Originally posted by exraver Well, who's giving him that bribe? YOU! People in ex-CCCP always break rules while driving, and when they get caught, they'll just say, Oh, I'll just pay a dude, instead of following regular procedure. It's all starts with us, regular people, all this corruption and bribery, it's acceptable for YOU to give bribe to get something.

not really man. cops dont get paid enough, and even becoming a cop in Russia is a much more stable job than working in another industry. In Belorus i heard they have set up a secondary police force that monitors regular police, and these new guys are kept honest by giving them enormous paychecks.

Remember this joke :

Three prizes were awarded for the successes in Socialist competition of police dept. #18. The third prize is the Complete Works of Vladimir Lenin. The second prize is 100 roubles and a ticket to Sochi... The first prize is a portable stop sign.

(stolen from wikipedia btw)

edit: stealth spell check

Last edited by pozz on Dec-04-2010 at 04:22

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Originally posted by chinamon who the fuck typed out this list?

genuine LOL

and now on to Jayx1's reply