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Storyteller
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Yes and no. It's got two independent frequency bands, each with their own LFO and envelope follower, plus a ring modulator and built-in limiter, which is a very nice touch considering the potential that high resonances have for clipping. Yes, you could accomplish all that using two filters two EQs, two limiters, etc. on two busses, but having it all in one plugin is very convenient and probably keeps CPU consumption at a minimum. Also, it essentially has a brickwall filter cutoff option (96dB!). I can't think of another filter offhand that does all that, particularly with the shockingly low $65 price tag, even more shocking considering it's a Vengeance product.


I'm just saying I think it's not as refreshing as they present it (allthough they do present it very nice). The sequencer I use is cheaper than that plugin and I can probably create a signal chain with the exact same parameters as this plugin to emulate it. And I'll only be using the internal plugins (no vst's)! I'm anything but impressed.

I can imagine it will be easy with this to do some cool stuff. Anyway, it's easy to bash on developers and Vengeance especially.


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itsamemario
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Re: Vengeance Philta XL

"have you ever wondered how a voice can go from this to this?"

he sounded just like adam west from family guy "do i sound like im on old time radio?"


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kinda seems like a bad version of fabfilter volcano


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Raphie
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bought it yesterday, can assure you it's not

did you watch the video?


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Looney4Clooney
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i did. 48 dB is not a filter type.


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Beatflux
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i did. 48 dB is not a filter type.


Hahaha.


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Raphie
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Not sure i understand your comment
48 refers to filter steepness in db/oct
one can have a filter steepnes of any multitude of 12
this has nothing to do with the filter type?


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cryophonik
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Filter type generally refers to their mode of cutoff, e.g., low pass, high pass, bandpass, allpass, formant, etc. The steepness of the cutoff is usually called the slope.


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BTW, Raphie, I'd love to hear a review of this and maybe some samples after you've used it for a bit. I really like the Vengeance compressor and, at $65, I'll probably pick this up early next year (yeah, I'm a filter whore. ), but the youtube quality vids usually aren't the best way to sell audio apps, IYKWIM.


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Raphie
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will do, working on it in a new track ,probably can post over the weekend


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DJ RANN
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quote:
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will do, working on it in a new track ,probably can post over the weekend


That would actually be most helpful

I'm i need of a good filter as the internal logic one is a bit basic and I've never thought it sounded that good.

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Zombie0729
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That would actually be most helpful

I'm i need of a good filter as the internal logic one is a bit basic and I've never thought it sounded that good.


ya, ableton's seems to color a bit as well so i've been using the TBK for all filtering. It's still not perfect and the resonance can't be automated smoothly

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