hey ash I know how you feel, I used to be the same until a friend of mine gave me his P's about a year ago (he's got his full license now).
I haven't been turned down with it once.

Underage is ALL shit, you won't like anything.
I don't know what it's like for Sydney but here's a couple of notes on ID's.

1. The international student card is a good idea, I know a friend who did that and that'd probably be fine for pubs and shit but most clubs (if they're asking for ID to everyone, it depends) will only accept keypass, dirvers license etc. Only real good ones..

soo... 2. try getting a friend's ID who looks like you cos basically if the ID looks real that's what's important, if the ID is real but you look a bit diff. from the photo they either don't notice or you can talk through "yeah man the foto's like 2 years old, how fucken funny do I look" etc.

or 3. find a friend, ask them to lend you their birth certificate, bank statement, old school card (without foto) whatever, go to keypass (or other valid foto ID) and get one with YOUR photo. What could be simpler!!!

nb. for big events, once you've already bought a ticket they don't really notice toooo much at the gates like stips said. I saw oakenfold, chicane and ferry when I was 15 and they didn't notice...

good luck man, I know how you feel

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Hey Junkie
Thanks for the tips they sound great!
But what is keypass? You say go to key pass but what exactly is it? I think I might be able to get one of my cousins IDs maybe their Ps or something. I hope so. Anyway thanks man you made it sound a hell of a lot simpler!

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I'll tell u wats worse then having no id

is having a real drivers license n the fucked up security not believeing its u coz (even tho its all above board)...

1.Security looks up and down n says..... u look 12 that cant b u and

2. that pic is only 6 months old, u cant have changed that much...

Its so bad coz i had a fake id since i was 16 and i never had a problem with it and now that my id is legitament they quiestion it


PPFFF thats my beef neways

I'm fucking frustrated! And not because of the dominance of house in Australia, but mainly because I'm only 16....sigh* However, I do like these posts about IDs and things. They're very informative. But I do look fairly young...nonetheless I'll try borrowing an ID from a relative so I can see all these brilliant internationals that are coming.

The association that under 18s are teenys is rather depressing. It's a harsh generalisation. I started listening to dance when I was around 13, and trance is my 'first love' regarding music... but I suppose the under 18 stereotype had to come from somewhere.

I guess I'm lucky because I don't get bagged out as much as I would in other places for liking trance or progressive, seeing not many people know what it is 'round these parts. If I told someone who lived in this backwater mecca for lost hippies that I liked trance, the reply would most likely be "...eh?".

I would definitely like to see trance grow. But yes, not so much that it becomes a trendy 'cool' thing that people only like so they can fit in with the crowd and mask their insecurities. I guess you have to find a balance where everyone is happy...

Ahhh, that's enough from me. This has distracted me from my assessments...

Here is a way to get an id, but, its illegal, and by illegal, i mean very illegal. But, you get a drivers license which wont be disputed by anyone.

You need someone who has gotten their drivers license and your their friend, and they trust you. You get them to give your birth certificate and a few other forms of id (bank card/credit card if they have one is a good one) and then copy their signature so you can do it cold. Walk in to the the nearest licensing department, pretned you are your friend, and say that you lost your license.

They will then ask for your id, take your picture, and then off you go you get your id within a week or so. You might have to pay some money to get a replacement license though.

I know some asian people at school who are connected to these people who make fake drivers licenses. Some can be real bodgy and some look like the real thing.

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so many people have no idea about what trance actually is... my friends think jamiroquai is a kind of funk-trance genre... i gotta say, jamiroquai is gay and itz more dance! but i hope that trance will still stay 'underground' for awhile yet, coz if it goes mainstream... teeny boppers will just swarm it and totally change it!!- i hate pop songs, all u need is a chik whoz hot and a average voice and soon she'll be swarmed by teeny boppers, (althou theres the ocasional talent like dido... i think she has an amazing voice!) newayz back to the point... i also want trance to become more popular coz some underground dj'z really deserve to make more money from the efforts they put into their sets... much more than fukn britney spears who only needs to pose to get as much salary as a club dj getz in a year but all in all i rekon trance is just fine right now, we should keep it to ourselves and only share it to those who really appreciate trance and not becoz trance is cool or nething, i totally agree with nelsonca, i just hope oneday trance will not become mainstream bullshit that teeny boppers flock to i dont think there ever will be a balance if trance was to go mainstream though... *sigh keep it underground for as long as we possibly can!!!!!

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Originally posted by PointyDC Trancey Ash, screw paying $75 :P, i've just heard of another brilliant, cheaper way to get an ID. Any decent school in Australia should allow you to get a International Student ID. These ID's are accepted globally and are sponsered by STA Travel and various other companies. People tried using pencils to fill out their form, the idea was to put in your real birthdate, then after getting it stamped by your school, to then go and rub out that birthdate and put in a fake one School's were quick to pick up on this, and now only allow pens. Have a look around the stores and find on the new pens which you can rub out the ink. Use this to fill out the form, get it stamped, rub out ink and change birthdate and voila! You have an accepted ID. Depends if you can be fucked/are desperate for an ID, but i'm looking around for one of these pens at the moment

I have one of these IS cards from STA, I just forged the principale's
sig and asked the the libary for the school stamp. Walked up to the front of metro's for TwoTribes, whipped it out and got told to "fuck off, we don't accept those". I managed to sweet talk my way in (the Bday on the card was the last week) but I'm not game to try again. It works for any pub or bottle'O but. I know a guy who does passports, but they are also dodgey.

What are Keycards anyway? that sounds really easy.

Grrrrr....8 months to go yill I'm 18, and october is before that!

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yeah by law the only acceptable forms of ID are current drivers license, proof of age card or passport if you are a foreigner.....

i used a scratched lisence for ages and it worked all the time, right up until i didn't need it any more....never had a problem. I got a firend to do it....all you need to do is carefully scratch of the last number in the date and replace it first with pencil and and then a felt tip pen over it.....but you do need it alot of practice to make it look perfect......hence why i got my friend to do it.........

anyways just a thought that might help you out

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