$149 USD for Cubase 6 if you are upgrading from 4 or 5. Not too bad I guess but I think I'll be holding off for a while.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Translation: you'll be stuck using our wonderful bundled synths until 3rd party developers rush out and make their synths VST3.5-compatible. And, we all saw how quickly they jumped on VST3 compatibility.

No, you just won't be able to get those particular features until/unless they update. They're not breaking back-compat.

How is this any different from the move to 64-bit architectures? If you've got 6 gigs worth of samples to load, guess what, you need a 64-bit sampler, having a 64-bit OS and computer isn't enough.

I'm not saying that I'm wetting my pants over Cubase 6, because I'm not; but you can't blame Steinberg for the fact that developers and/or their managers in the consumer/prosumer production world are lazy, incompetent boobs who spend 80% of their time working on highly-punitive "piracy prevention" initiatives that harass legitimate customers and make it more pleasant to deal with cracked versions even when you actually paid.

At least Steinberg is out there trying to innovate. If other companies won't follow their lead then vote with your wallet; demand that they support the new standards before you'll pay for upgrades or for any new software from them.

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Originally posted by DigiNut but you can't blame Steinberg for the fact that developers and/or their managers in the consumer/prosumer production world are lazy, incompetent boobs who spend 80% of their time working on highly-punitive "piracy prevention" initiatives that harass legitimate customers and make it more pleasant to deal with cracked versions even when you actually paid.

Oh yes, QFT. They really put the dong in dongle.

Ordered a Yamaha KX61 because it came bundled with Cubase 4 AI...My pc hated it so much that I ended up having to faff around with tech support for at least a week before I got it functional. (Win7 64 bit)

And even then it's buggy as shit and the yamaha drivers make my USB ports emo from time to time.

And the moral of that story? A cracked version of Cubase 5 ran flawlessly without any effort whatsoever...Not to say I kept it, but more of a proof of concept kinda thing...(Upgraded via student package for $249.99, so not all that bad)

Quite dumb of them to say "Hurrr, it's uncrackable," because sure enough...

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Originally posted by DigiNut [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#99CCEE]No, you just won't be able to get those particular features until/unless they update. They're not breaking back-compat.

Well, that's exactly what I meant - I was speaking in the context of the new expression features. Of course you'll still be able to use any other VST/2/3 compatible plugins. It would be suicide for them if they didn't.

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No doubt Cubase is very guilty with respect to intrusive copy protection, but compared to some companies (Native Instruments, I'm lookin' at you), they're actually pretty tame. At least you can resell the software and it doesn't phone home every 10 seconds.

Audio companies don't seem to have gotten the message yet that people are only willing to pay for a compelling product. Oppressive activation schemes won't prevent piracy; offering something unique instead of a clone of all the other 5000 soft-synths on the market (like, say, supporting the new VST standard) will.

Maybe I need to quit my day job and start developing audio software. But it'd probably just get pirated anyway.

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Originally posted by DigiNut No doubt Cubase is very guilty with respect to intrusive copy protection, but compared to some companies (Native Instruments, I'm lookin' at you)

?? I've never had a problem with it since I first got it working... And as far as I know it doesn't phone home...

Every time I've dealt with NI they've been really good actually, given me new activation keys, sorted me for free upgrades etc... Pretty awesome IMO.

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