can your computer handle 250 + audio tracks ? There is a world of music that isn't EDM and people like to use different tools. The irony of the individual you speak of and your pointless insult is quite funny. I wouldn't go making fun of people's ability when your lack of ability is so clearly available to the public. Also are you like 50 ? I think it is time to throw in the towel. I mean i took a listen to 3 tracks and I would really tone down the arrogance as you suffer from a lack of ability talent and since being mean is the flavour of the day, looks. You are quite the ugly mother ******. I mean it is hard to judge my fellow man being extremely attractive myself but I am rather good at placing myself in the boots of an average looking man, say RobbyRox, then judging the person based on par. You have a boogey of 10 and you wear stupid hats. NOt the kind of hat that says I make techno but more along the lines of , I like to camp or I rape children. You untalented ugly pederast.

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Is this analog like the ssl 4000?
If not I would not buy it, if a had the money to buy a ssl console.

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lol, let us know when you got 80 000 in the bank.

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He's right though. SSL built their reputation on analogue mixers, and now they're trying to sell a glorified midi controller. Its a bit of a rort IMO.

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i have a feeling ATX is drunk again lol.

for a cheaper option look at the SSL X Desk - £2000 ish. sounds phenomenal. ok so you dont have the sequencer integration and midi control but if you want the SSL mix bus 'sound' then you cant really go wrong.

and yes we've got one last month

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That's a totally different product

Nucleus is a midi controller with stereo monitoring bundled with native Duende plugins

the X-Desk is a REAL mixingdesk with 16 inline inputs, buss mixing and extensive monitoring.

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Originally posted by studiobob if you want the SSL mix bus 'sound' then you cant really go wrong.

What is that 'SSL sound' like? I honestly don't know - I'm guessing like those classic 80's Queen or Sade tracks? Would a budget SSL have that sound (although I still could not describe 'that sound' if I had to)?

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the x desk has the same pre's as the bigger consoles and same summing as well. (or so the marketing would have you believe anyway) the nucleus has 2 pres in it as well i believe. just my thoughts on the nucleus was that it all seemed a bit unnecessary really... the duende plugins were released a while ago and would have thought they would have been surpassed by UAD/waves etc. cant see a serious studio owner using it, though would be good good someone with more money than sense entering the world of production for the first time and wanting a good all in one solution...

SSL sound? never used the big consoles so cant comment, but having used the xdesk and also 2 SSL eq channels i can tell you it sounds really good! far better than mixing ITB at any rate. can hear how digital cubase sounds compared to it...

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Originally posted by studiobob for a cheaper option look at the SSL X Desk - £2000 ish. sounds phenomenal. ok so you dont have the sequencer integration and midi control but if you want the SSL mix bus 'sound' then you cant really go wrong. and yes we've got one last month

I've been considering moving up to one of those after buying my Alpha Channel a few months. For guys like Richard, you may want to consider the Alpha Channel for tracking vocals (it's a mono channel strip) if you're ever in the market for a new preamp. They run about $1K USD, but I got mine in like-new condition, only a few months old for $550.

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i got my first alpha channel unit last week, have now ordered a 2nd so i can use them stereo in my mastering chain as well.

a SSL X-Patch is next, together with an API5500 EQ and than that's it, i promise (FAAT FAAAAAT soundz coming up )

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Originally posted by closedcircle Besides who justifies buying that piece of hardware? Either you are a hobbyist and don't need it or you just trying to show off, like mastering engineers with analogue processing equipment (which half of them don't even have and just process the audio on the computer).

Yeah, because those are the only two types of people making these days, right. For the record, the OP (DJ RANN) falls into neither category and obviously has far more talent and knowledge than you will ever hope to have. (facepalm #1)

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Originally posted by closedcircle It's so much BS. It doesn't take money to write music. It takes time, patience and dedication. You need a computer,...

No, you don't need a computer to make music. You only need a computer to make yourself look like a moron on the internet. (facepalm #2)

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Originally posted by closedcircle Crap I'm so used to drawing precise volume levels that I don't even see how one of those would be useful at all for mixing. I mix to -5 RMS with peaks hitting just below 0.0 DB. How the F would you ever get that accurate with one of those stupid devices? The funny part is I bet you can't mix for shit and your the one posting needless gear to make yourself feel better about it.

Wow, you must be awesome. Mixing with your eyes is definitely preferred over the way a guy like DJ RANN (who is a pro working in an LA, btw) does it. I mean, who the hell uses a fader and mixes with their ears anymore? Seriously, if you've spent any time making music, you know that mixing with your ears is FAR more important than drawing precise envelopes. Besides, if you want to talk speed, let's see you draw 5 or 6 envelopes as fast as RANN can automate them simultaneously using faders. And, his results will blow yours away because, in addition to having far more experience and knowledge than you do, he'll be focusing on what really matters. (facepalm #3)

So, let's give those tracks of your a listen shall we? M4B doesn't speak very highly of them, but he hates everything , so let's see for ourselves.......Ouch. Yeah, he's right.

Newb, here's some advice - assuming that you're not just an alt/troll, you are clearly very new to making music and have a LOT to learn, not only about making music, but also about respect for your fellow musicians. Regardless, you are not qualified to be hammering other people on music forums. I mean, your tracks are nothing more than poorly mixed Vengeance drum loops with a Nexus or Sylenth1 arp over the top, repeating ad nauseum with nothing interesting going on harmonically, melodically, or rhythmically. I mean, these are just bad and they sound like something a 13-yo who just downloaded his first cracked copy of FLS would make in about 30 minutes (probably not far from the truth). I normally wouldn't even bother commenting on something this amateur because everybody has to start somewhere, but your attitude is in severe need of an adjustment. There's hardly a drop of musicality involved, and, if you've got any of your "precise envelopes" in there, they aren't doing much to save these amateur train wrecks. Of all people, you really should be the one thinking about how much better your music would be if you stepped away from the computer and learned a thing or two about playing an instrument and mixing.

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