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Nrg2Nfinit
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Location: Ottawa

alot of people in wheelchairs in this thread

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Redd
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haha yeah


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The17sss
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
People in wheelchairs get stared at and, in many cases, glared at wherever they go. The only difference is that there are more people in one concentrated area than at a grocery store or wherever else they might be. I've seen quite a few people in wheelchairs at clubs and nobody has ever really glared at them or made things awkward for that individual and their group of friends. If anything, I see more women approach the people in wheelchairs to flirt/dance with them than any other guy.

This is true. But the guy in the chair must realize that in reality this is only happening b/c of his situation and the girls aren't really interested... thus making the end of the night that much more lonely and depressing. That's why it seems so counterproductive IMO to go into that environment, especially if it was formerly a source of great times

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
i'm in a wheelchair and i bet i get more ass than you.


Ha. Sorry, but no.

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nefardec
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Re: Wheelchair guy

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss More often than not, I see the forced "I'm having a great time"


this applies to at least half of the people in a club


ableist post is ableist

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jonSun
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Re: Wheelchair guy

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Originally posted by The17sss
We've all seen it and been privy to the awkwardness: the guy in the nightclub or bar in a wheelchair. Personally, I give them huge props for having the balls to say "I don't give a fuck" and heading out there knowing they'll get glared at.

But goddamn (and I don't say this in a mocking or sarcastic way at all)... let's say you're in your 20's or 30's and have only been in the chair for a year or two; would it not be depressing as hell to go back into the type of environment where you had some of the best times in your youth... partying, bar hopping, dancing with chicks, after-party hook ups, etc? Why torture yourself watching everyone else dancing, socializing, and chasing ass... shoving all the shit you wish you could do in your own face? I'm sure they don't want pity, but I can't help feeling horrible for them when I see it. More often than not, I see the forced "I'm having a great time" look on their face, and their buddies with the look that's equal parts "we're having a great time" and "stop staring, asshole". Sad stuff. I don't know- I'm sure they want to normalize themselves as much as possible but that just seems like the most counterproductive way to go about it.

/rant



so not only do you hate black people, you hate people in wheel chairs.


we gotta start a wheel chair alliance


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tubularbills
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every club i've been to is not wheelchair accessable.

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The17sss
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Re: Re: Wheelchair guy

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
ableist post is ableist



I've noticed that you're overly sensitized to such topics, and your knee-jerk reaction is to play the discrimination card. For example, you were the first to conclude that Domesticated was in fact racist because he started the thread genuinely asking questions about black culture. There was nothing racist at all about his queries, yet your first comment was this:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i think there's a racist presumption to the whole thing, that is that black people should have any different attitudes about status in the first place, that the question posed is seen as legitimate. so i think you've already done a good job appearing racist. it's not clear yet if you are being discriminatory or supremacist, but definitely racist.

and i think your objective is pretty vague.

first of all you have to define 'status' in a way that is meaningful across many disparate groups of people.

and you also need to prove that the a black rapper who brag about his 'status' change is somehow more meaningful than a non black person who posts a photo of their child's college graduation on their mcdonalds cash register.

i think you should change your focus from 'black people' to 'hip hop culture'

otherwise it's incredibly racist, ignorant, and academically clumsy.



Clearly way overboard towards someone with zero racist intent, who had the "nerve" to say "black" instead of "hip hop" and so on.

And here you are, claiming something similar about me; that I must be prejudiced towards people in wheelchairs for the mere mention that I brought up a subject about that particular group of people. I said nothing degrading or insulting about them. I'm not mocking them or making jokes at their expense... simply bringing up a topic to see how others think about it too. Only thing I'm presumptive about is that you must have been indoctrinated into the elitist school of political correctness and social justice, where if one says words like "black people", "wheelchair", "midget" or maybe even "retard" they must harbor some form of latent racism or discrimination as part of their subconscious and are simply not enlightened enough to admit or understand it.

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WittyHandle
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I don't see how anyone could get any feelings of discrimination from the original post. He was just being honest.

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EddieZilker
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Anyone who reads nefardec too literally will become utterly convinced that he surrounds himself with constantly victimized and overly sensitive black, homosexual, transgender paraplegics.


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The17sss
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quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Anyone who reads nefardec too literally will become utterly convinced that he surrounds himself with constantly victimized and overly sensitive black, homosexual, transgender paraplegics.



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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Anyone who reads nefardec too literally will become utterly convinced that he surrounds himself with constantly victimized and overly sensitive black, homosexual, transgender paraplegics.



I don't know, that might not be unique enough for him.

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