harmonic mixing? sounds interesting.. but viability.. i don't think its very nice..
i'll stick with ma own...

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Deavatar don`t start at the top then work your way down , start at the bottom the work your way up . Just beat mix first .

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Well i been DJing for 2 years, dont know what the fuck Key mixing is, havent try'd to understand, all the explentaions and stuff dont mean shit to me, =P Minor's Major's i mean WTF, if someone could tell me 2 tracks that Key mix together perfectly so i could try and see what the fuck the fuss is about!

The following is from http://www.djprince.net/howto.htm

When you are trying to find the root key, play one note at the time. The note that blends in with the song, almost disappears in the sound picture is probably the root key. After you have found your first root key suspect try to play the sub dominant(5 halvsteps +/-) and dominant key(7 halvsteps +/-). If you are 100% certain that you have found the root key try now to play a chord, major chord is root key+ 4+3 halvsteps and minor chord is root key +3+4 halvsteps. Try to listen to the mood of the song, is it major or minor? If you can`t get the hang of this, ask a musician for help.

Does anyone understand this??????????????????????????

nope.


i'm happy when my mixing its making grins widen across peoples faces and everything goes kinder mentle. i have heard of key mixing and have been told that i can do it, although i dont seem to realise when i am. im sure u all know the feeling when IT just works. some times im sure a clash can be just as positve as key mixing (as long as its done right!) and i think its best to go on instinct until u get that 8 o'clock slot on R1.





excuse me. ihave a habit of talking complete crap sometimes.




PS. i do realise this has nuffin to do with ur original question but sorry, im not smart enuff to explain how to go about pulling it off. just expressin' my feelings...............ooh first post.

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lets attack this one step at a time.
do you understand that if you've found your "root key"
or just the key of the track, you can play a basic major chord for example C,E,G (if its C major) and it should blend smoothly. for example, try "pvd - for an angel" that's in c major.

(if it was minor, it would be C, E flat, G)

see if you follow me..

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ok. y is everyone so obessessed w/ finding root keys and stuff like that? just be a smart dj and mix records that sound good together. fuck sifting through records trying to find root keys that match. if you can't differentiate between major and minor tracks, learn some scales just so you know what they sound like. dont turn your whole focus to trying to select things that harmonize, you'll be grazing through vinyl all night. i think it takes the fun out of dj'ing when you start writing down bpm and key signatures on your record sleeves. if something doesn't harmonize that u do want to mix, im sure there's a solo rhythm track somewhere in there [ending?] thats begging to be mixed w/ another rhythm track or bassline from a new record.

Lexi

i agree w/ lexiconavenue.. was just trying to help out those who're asking..
you probably shouldn't be writing down key sigs on your vinyl, you could get all confused - just because their in the same key or similar doesn't mean they'll mix well.
i suppose the best way to mix is to know your vinyl inside out and what goes well in succession (after each other)
styles and such.

unless you're trying to build a set from scratch for a demo tape or something, trust your judgement on the fly..

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See... Harmonic mixing can be very useful and can take a mix to great heights if done appropriately, especially when mixing trance tunes, however the thing is I find writing down keys and bpms kinda lame.

However, if you have a ear for music, in terms of keys compatability, you are at an advantage. I personally do not mix harmonically (I just go with the flow), but I have heard mixsets by Sasha and Oakenfold who has done excellent mixsets by mixing tunes harmonically.

An advantage in mixing harmonically, by being able to change the bpm of a particular record without changing the pitch can be done by using 'pitch shifter' which are found in DJM 500/ 600. (Your record can be playing at +8% and you can adjust the pitch back at 0)

Whether they exists seperately in other effectors, I am not too sure. However, this is an advantage if you wanna take mixing to a higher level.

After all, practise makes perfect and experimentation is the key.

Hey Patticus - have you really got perfect pitch? I've only ever met 1 person other than me who's got it. How old were you when you realised???

Anyway, here's a couple of examples of tracks that beatmatch AND keymatch. I'm sure there's more in my vinyl collection somewhere.

Mandalay - Not Seventeen (Tom Middleton Mix) and Blue Amazon - And Then The Rain Falls (Both Original and Dub).

PvD - For an Angel and BT - Dreaming (Libra Mix).

Joel, I've had intesnive classical music training in piano since I was 3 (I quit a few years ago). Even if I wasn't blessed with it, I think it probably would have been developed by all those hours practicing. But yeah... I guess I've always known that I've had it

kinda annoying, sometimes if I bitch in a thread about a track being played in the wrong key (pitch) and sounding bad, people are like wtf is up with this guy. hehe

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