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Originally posted by Beatflux There was this website that went through all of the top 10 albums of all time and they had dynamics like Thriller. I can't find it anymore.

You might be thinking of this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050602...s/Dynamics.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20050602...Read/index.html

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Originally posted by Storyteller Èxactly, there are numerous scientific papers available that state that music with more perceived loudness are interpreted as sounding better which are based on emperical evidence/research. What the OP says is kind of the opposite. Is there more information available to this picture (research resources and angle, goals etc?)

If you have two songs, one compressed version and one left untouched and you match their volumes so they have the same perceived loudness, the uncompressed one will sound better.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles You might be thinking of this: http://web.archive.org/web/20050602...s/Dynamics.html http://web.archive.org/web/20050602...Read/index.html

Yeah.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Beatflux If you have two songs, one compressed version and one left untouched and you match their volumes so they have the same perceived loudness, the uncompressed one will sound better.

But that is not relevant within the context of the posted image.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

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Originally posted by Beatflux If you have two songs, one compressed version and one left untouched and you match their volumes so they have the same perceived loudness, the uncompressed one will sound better.

But the compressed one may well sell better. There's no evidence that overcompression causes lost sales.

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Originally posted by derail But the compressed one may well sell better. There's no evidence that overcompression causes lost sales.

Take all of your favorite songs, compress them down to DR3 and then A/B them at comparable loudness.

That's all the evidence that is needed.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Take all of your favorite songs, compress them down to DR3 and then A/B them at comparable loudness. That's all the evidence that is needed.

Evidence to my ears that it sounds worse, yes.

But that's not what I said.

I said there's no evidence that it causes lost sales.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Take all of your favorite songs, compress them down to DR3 and then A/B them at comparable loudness. That's all the evidence that is needed.

Does this apply on a good, extremely loud soundsystem in a club? I have a feeling it isn't quite the same.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Take all of your favorite songs, compress them down to DR3 and then A/B them at comparable loudness. That's all the evidence that is needed.

This comparison defeats the purpose of loudness and the way the way it is used in practice. Although this way the results might be in your favour it is not relevant to the real world, everything the public/audience hears is uber loud whichever way you want to put it, and louder stands out more. It's been proven.

I'm not sure, but I believe there's also quite a lot of people/papers that say loudness increases sales opposed to dynamic range. I think an audio freak (like a lot of TA's) might like some dynamic range, but on average nobody really cares. They either have lousy headphones, crappy soundsystem or listen to the music on their phone speaker or something.

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They can't go over 0db!!

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Originally posted by Beatflux Take all of your favorite songs, compress them down to DR3 and then A/B them at comparable loudness. That's all the evidence that is needed.

That logic only works assuming that poor sound can cause lost sales.

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