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Originally posted by DJ TL I have HS 80 monitors...

That should be good.

RANN, what do you think of RME Multiface II?

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Originally posted by DJ TL Its not that I do things backwards, I purchased the EMU 1212 along with a midi controller, when I first started but I wasn't sure how into production I was going to get and I didnt want to drop $1000+ on an interface for nothing. When I looked into the 1212 I read that the converters on it were excellent and it was the best deal within its price range. Anyways I dont plan on adding anymore hardware synths to my set up anytime soon, just maybe some external effects processors. I looked into the RME 400 and 800 they look like decent interfaces, I would like to go with something external this time so not PCI. Also how can I tell if the converters are good? Will I notice an instant upgrade from my 1212 right away?

Still pretty backwards to get two good analogue synths instead of a decent interface. Really compromises your setup.

You may notice a difference, it depends how many tracks of audio you're working with and how your monitors are. HS80s are OK, so I'd say go the 800, maybe second hand. The price you quoted was relatively high, I think you should be able to keep an eye out for it cheaper than that.

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Originally posted by DJ TL I have HS 80 monitors... Im really conflicted right now, the 800 is $1699 which is a little high for me. From what ive read I don't think the 400 would be a massive step up, from a 1212m, and I dont think I could justify spending $1299 on a small upgrade.

Then just buy an Echo audiofire 4, 8 or 12 depending on how much I/o you need. It will be a very decent step up in terms of quality but only cost you a fraction of what the RME would,

The HS80's great, so no worries there.

@eddie - the multiface is wicked. i work with a couple of composers that use them (with the madi/digiface option) alongside fully maxed out PTHD4 rigs and they are flawless. Rock solid, great sound quality and a ton of I/o for the money.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Then just buy an Echo audiofire 4, 8 or 12 depending on how much I/o you need. It will be a very decent step up in terms of quality but only cost you a fraction of what the RME would, The HS80's great, so no worries there. @eddie - the multiface is wicked. i work with a couple of composers that use them (with the madi/digiface option) alongside fully maxed out PTHD4 rigs and they are flawless. Rock solid, great sound quality and a ton of I/o for the money.

Yeah, thats more in my price range, then I can sell my 1212 and get a bill or so back. So the audio fires are better then EMU cards I take it?

In audio fidelity I wouldn't be so surprised if the Audiofire and the emu 1212 would be very similar - I don't know how they compare in this area really. However in stability and being futureproof the Audiofire wins hands down

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Originally posted by DJ TL Yeah, thats more in my price range, then I can sell my 1212 and get a bill or so back. So the audio fires are better then EMU cards I take it?

Yes they are a bit better. not a huge difference, but enough so that you'll hear it.

suprised nobody mentioned the mbox yet.

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Originally posted by LoveHate suprised nobody mentioned the mbox yet.

I'm not. They're pretty shit in the grand scheme of things (value vs quality & function etc).

The Steinberg MR816x (non DSP version) is ridiculously cheap for it's features and input quality.

It's also got the digital expansion should you need it.

Drivers are rock solid too. 5ms is easy without taxing my old Q9450 although I tend to pull back to about 9ms for mixing.

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The RedNet-series looks pretty astounding, but probably waaayyy beyond most of our budgets. Well, mine at least - I've seen estimates of the RedNet 4 (bottom unit in the photo below) at around $5K.

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Originally posted by tehlord The Steinberg MR816x (non DSP version) is ridiculously cheap for it's features and input quality. It's also got the digital expansion should you need it. Drivers are rock solid too. 5ms is easy without taxing my old Q9450 although I tend to pull back to about 9ms for mixing.

Absolutely right. Steinberg used to make some horrendous interfaces but they got it right with this one. Good mic pres, very good conversion and a shitload of I/O.

The only downside is that is costs $700, and unless you need all that I/O, that's $450 more than the echo audiofire 4 or $200 more than Audiofire 8 both of which are comparable in quality and have pretty good mic pres as well.