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tubularbills
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Originally posted by runcmd
do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.


I was under the impression that the Red Cross that was mentioned in the OP was the Amreican Red Cross. http://www.redcross.org/

so, with the idea of an American organization in mind, it makes more sense to me that Americans would donate money to an American Organization to help out other Americans in their own country (i.e. Katrina).

if the Earthquake/tsunami that hit Japan hit California, more Americans would have donated to the American Red Cross.

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quote:
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do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/h...cross-donations

tbills is right. Americans donated the most (to the Red Cross, at least) because it happened in the US. It hit close to home, so to speak.

Is there some sort of objection to this?


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least money went to Haiti was because a lot of it was stuck in governement crap


less donations for japan ... it's fairly strange but some people have speculated why should we help a rich country when they can handle it all themselves?

truly strange behavior

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On a serious and more literate note, Katrina almost completely decimated a city of over a million people. I'm not entirely sure about the exact numbers, but the Tsunami in Japan cause the evacuation of not even half that total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...-donations#data

If you look at that site, you'll see that the US donated 4 times as much money to Haiti as the next highest country's donations. Whether it came from individual citizens or not, calling Americans assholes when their country donated 4 times as much money as the next is kind of misguided don't you think?


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What does Haiti produce that we don't already have a hold on?


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I was under the impression that the Red Cross that was mentioned in the OP was the Amreican Red Cross. http://www.redcross.org/

so, with the idea of an American organization in mind, it makes more sense to me that Americans would donate money to an American Organization to help out other Americans in their own country (i.e. Katrina).

if the Earthquake/tsunami that hit Japan hit California, more Americans would have donated to the American Red Cross.


The American Red Cross is the designated US affiliate of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement.

I would think the CNN article is referring to ICRC as a whole, and not just one local chapter.


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sweet irony is that america is one of the countries that gives the most foreign aid as a whole yet is one of the countries that the least per citizen

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How is it not smash-you-over-the-head obvious that a country would donate more money to disaster victims of their own country?

As for Haiti, their government lacks the infrastructure that is helpful for the procurement of donations that are sent from other countries. If I recall correctly, there were some allegations of donation money never reaching anybody who could actually benefit from it. The government of Haiti is unstable at best, so in that situation the "where is this money actually going?" question absolutely comes into play.


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and if u divide on the number of citizens living in the countrys? US citizens on an average doesnt give shit (in both meanings). get off your high american douche horse.


I'm not even American you fucking moron.


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On a serious and more literate note, Katrina almost completely decimated a city of over a million people. I'm not entirely sure about the exact numbers, but the Tsunami in Japan cause the evacuation of not even half that total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...-donations#data

If you look at that site, you'll see that the US donated 4 times as much money as the next highest country's donations.


Also, not all donations went to New Orleans. Katrina's damage in Mississippi and Eastern Louisiana was also very widespread. personally, when Katrina happened, I donated to help out folks in Mississippi, not Louisiana.

All in all, the three disasters are very hard to compare on numerous scales.

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quote:
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and if u divide on the number of citizens living in the countrys? US citizens on an average doesnt give shit (in both meanings). get off your high american douche horse.


Wow, how did one, single thread manage to gather so very many Red Cross donors in it?! Great job, Lira.


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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/h...cross-donations

tbills is right. Americans donated the most (to the Red Cross, at least) because it happened in the US. It hit close to home, so to speak.

Is there some sort of objection to this?


I would imagine it had less to do with where it hit and more to do with the US having a population nearly 40 times larger than the runner-up country.


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