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Originally posted by cl0ckw3rk After all is said and done, it's what you created that matters, not what you consumed.

That's going straight on facebook! lol just kidding. I like it though, concise.. sig worthy.

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What makes me mad is that people who follow you on soundcloud to get vanity followers. Same thing with facebook, but replace 'bands' with 'friends'

A good example of a producer who got famous by "accident" is Burial. I don't know how many of you guys know about him, but he remained completely anonymous until a couple years ago. From his Wiki:

"Although both albums have been met with much widespread acclaim, Burial remained anonymous until August 2008, and said in an early interview that 'only five people know I make tunes'."

Oh, and an another interesting blurb:

"Bevan claims to compose nearly all his music in SoundForge, a digital audio editor, and to eschew the use of trackers and sequencers."

It just comes down to whether you produce for yourself or for others. I guess the ultimate aim is producing something for ourselves that others happen to enjoy.

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Some great points people. I like Ranns streamlined networking approach - something I might try in my own small business. My home made sh1tty business website is no 1 on Google though (for the typical search term used) so yet again not a bad result without the clusterfuk bollogs I was told I MUST do to achieve this.


I think what I wanted to convey here is that so many people get distracted by nonsense and this quest to be in touch everywhere and know everything can be a side show and leave you mentally spread too thinly and digging for turds.

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Originally posted by skyhunter I'm just a teen, so my outlook has not nearly as much experience as your's, but the way I see it is that I want to make this music thing my job, so if that means I have to network now until I'm good enough that people do it for me, so be it. Because if I grew up to where I can make music/gig/network instead of working a 9 to 5, I'd be relatively happy, because at least some of my job (gigging and writing music) is pretty damn fun.

I can understand your logic in this but I'm a firm believer that if your music is truly good enough then a decent label will sign you up (providing you send it to them) and they will have the contacts and the reputation to do all the shit stuff for you.

If your music is okay but not any better than the 1000's of other people's stuff out there, then yeah, to have even the slightest chance of getting some exposure, you've gotta do as much networking as possible with all the bullshit that Richard and others have talked about. If you fall into this category then the chances of you ever getting to a stage where you can live off your music is incredibly slim, simply because your music isn't good enough.

So why bother spending your time networking if the product (your music) isn't good enough anyway?

If your music is of true quality, you won't need to waste time with all the bullshit because the music will speak for itself.

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Originally posted by G-Con I can understand your logic in this but I'm a firm believer that if your music is truly good enough then a decent label will sign you up (providing you send it to them) and they will have the contacts and the reputation to do all the shit stuff for you. If your music is okay but not any better than the 1000's of other people's stuff out there, then yeah, to have even the slightest chance of getting some exposure, you've gotta do as much networking as possible with all the bullshit that Richard and others have talked about. If you fall into this category then the chances of you ever getting to a stage where you can live off your music is incredibly slim, simply because your music isn't good enough. So why bother spending your time networking if the product (your music) isn't good enough anyway? If your music is of true quality, you won't need to waste time with all the bullshit because the music will speak for itself.

True, and I don't network very much now. I will start to network when people start to do it for me. Look at my soundcloud, I have like... what, 30 followers? not great. Someday I'll send my stuff to labels when my music is good enough (I have another 50 or so years on this earth so I have a little breathing room). I spend most of my day producing music, simply because it's more fun anyways. The type of music I'm really good at is more mainstream anyways, so I could probably just go to ultra or whatever like basshunter and be through with it.

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There is nothing wrong with being musically diverse.

My Soundcloud

Lol, I reaad through this thread, then went to make some room in my soundcloud for a set that's exporting atm, look at what I found in my inbox!

"Hi,

I really like you track Alfi - Technotic pt 1 (Work In Progress).

Are you interested in account at Soundcloud with 4500 followers come from all the world? I have one for sell. You can change username and profile link -> it's no problem you can ask me anything you want to know about this profile."

That pretty much sums up the music business today I think.

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ALFI - BOHICA - DJ MIX (Stream+Dropbox)

haha, actually i just asked him how much.. i think i'm gonna see if i can get him to upload one of my tracks for free to see how many comments i'd get, kinda proof of service or something..

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ALFI - BOHICA - DJ MIX (Stream+Dropbox)

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Originally posted by CalvP as said by Chuck Palahniuk "The things you own end up owning you".

I agree.

Here's an aside: It saddens me that people think that Fight Club is about fighting. I just want to punch them in the face.

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Originally posted by -FSP- I agree. Here's an aside: It saddens me that people think that Fight Club is about fighting. I just want to punch them in the face.

Just like people think "The Book of Eli" is about the Bible...hahaha

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

never saw Eli, but it seems like it was about the bible from what I've read. Was the Bible the facade for some other theme in the movie?

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Originally posted by -FSP- never saw Eli, but it seems like it was about the bible from what I've read. Was the Bible the facade for some other theme in the movie?

The bible represented the struggle for the preservation of knowledge, and hope for a better future. There are some big twists in the movie that revolve around these themes that I do not want to give away. This is one of the more recent hollywood films that has surprised me with a decent story. There are a couple of twists in the movie that I thoroughly enjoyed.

The first half of the film leads you to believe its going to be another bible thumping joy ride, but luckily it goes deeper than a post apocalyptic search for a holy land.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.