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VAR
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i liked it better when Citizens had more rights and opportunities then illegals.


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VAR
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You don't need a permit to go from South Dakota to North Dakota. Likewise, I don't see why it should be illegal to move from South America to North America. If bureacracy gets on the way, fix the laws, not the people.


there are only 100 people that live in north AND south dakota.
besides, no one else wants to go there.


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Joss Weatherby
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VAR, its private scholarships, you didn't have any more right to them than an illegal in the first place.

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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by VAR
i liked it better when Citizens had more rights and opportunities then illegals.


I'm sure they'd like to live in a country free from the instability created by our drug laws and drug habits. Unfortunately, living in ours is the next best solution.


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VDub
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Registered: Feb 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You don't need a permit to go from South Dakota to North Dakota. Likewise, I don't see why it should be illegal to move from South America to North America. If bureacracy gets on the way, fix the laws, not the people.


Surely you jest...


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Arbiter
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Immigrants who have something to contribute are an asset to be exploited. Programs like this one help maximize the value of that asset.

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Lira
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Originally posted by phyrrus
reciprocal bureaucracy sir. Americans require Brazilians to have visas, ergo Americans need visas to travel to Brazil.

I never said it was any better the other way around - my bad for not adding the words "and vice-versa" afterwards. For all I care, no one should need a visa to enter this country... there are loads of Bolivians employed as slaves near our borders, for example. I'd rather see them being treated the way I would, paying their taxes and being able to benefit from services such as public health and education, than as beasts who are barely seen as human by their employers.
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Surely you jest...

No, I don't. This is one of the few things I wouldn't joke about.

Edit: On second thought, I'd probably joke about this as well


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AnotherWay83
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
I'm sure they'd like to live in a country free from the instability created by our drug laws and drug habits.


Yep, not to mention the poverty caused as a result of NAFTA...

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nchs09
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Can i add that i became a citizen and i hate this fucking country. The people are beyond dumb. The weather sucks where i live (it kinda sucks everywhere). I cant have a maid because its so fucking expensive etc etc etc.


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Zharen
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Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by VAR
i liked it better when Citizens had more rights and opportunities then illegals.


THIS

Regular citizens are already paying an arm and a leg just to attend college here in this state. Why should they have to pay so much when illegals get a pass?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...e_n_899394.html

quote:
The University of California, one of the country's largest and most respected higher education systems, raised tuition Thursday by another 9.6 percent for the upcoming school year in response to a sharp reduction in government support.

The $1,068 hike passed by the Board of Regents came on top of a previously approved 8 percent hike for 2011-2012.

Incoming UCLA junior Alex Jreisat, who is transferring from a community college, said the latest increase will force him and other students to borrow more money and go deeper into debt.

"It's already putting me in an uncomfortable situation financially," said Jreisat. a 21-year-old anthropology major who traveled to San Francisco to speak at the board meeting. "It's tragic that the regents keep balancing the budget on the backs of students ... It's a shame that the state has to put the regents in that position."

Undergraduate and graduate tuition for California residents will jump to $12,192 a year, which doesn't include room, board and roughly $1,000 in campus fees. That's $1,890, or 18 percent, more than the amount UC undergraduates paid in the previous academic year and more than three times what they paid a decade ago.

About one-third of the estimated $216 million in new tuition revenue will be used for financial aid. Out-of-state and international students will pay about $36,000 in annual tuition.

The UC system's move came just two days after the separate California State University system decided to raise tuition by 12 percent on top of a previously approved 10 percent increase. That system has 23 campuses and about 412,000 students.


This is ridiculous. If illegals can get free tuition and private scholarships, then legal citizens should too. This state gets stupider as each year passes. Maybe they oughta fix their own budget problems before attracting all the illegals over here.

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VAR
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Y'all make very valid points. i am always for people that want to better themselves and contribute to the community/state/nation.

on the other hand;

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/ille...ory?id=10699317

http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa...ws_iv_ctrl=1741


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by VAR
Y'all make very valid points. i am always for people that want to better themselves and contribute to the community/state/nation.

on the other hand;

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/ille...ory?id=10699317

http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa...ws_iv_ctrl=1741


Can you cite something other than a conservative think tank?

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