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Originally posted by tehlord Curiously I've had 3 different people ask me to do some 'small' movie soundtrack work recently. I strongly suspect it'll come to nothing and involve no money whatsoever.

still maybe worth doing mate be nice to have under your belt

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Originally posted by stewart.m still maybe worth doing mate be nice to have under your belt

I haven't really got the inclination to work with people who don't know what they're doing, or the skill to work with those that do.

Rock and a hard place really!

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Originally posted by CalvP "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." Chinese Proverb Music Publishing:Everything You Wanted To Know (But Were Afraid To Ask)

i like the cut of ya jib there lad and so im thanks for the link

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Originally posted by tehlord I haven't really got the inclination to work with people who don't know what they're doing, or the skill to work with those that do. Rock and a hard place really!

ah i see said the blind man you can but only try i guess.

lol.

as far as time spent and money made, this industry is not what you are looking for. Looking for a fast buck, play the stock market.

Most composers do not start making a living until their 40s. That is when your career starts.

But if you are a somewhat known pop act or EDM act, you can license a track and if the show is syndicated, it will make your beatport revenue make you go jesus titty christ.

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I get it but here lies the problem.

it's not really even about being able to create some atmospheric piece of music that sounds vaguely like film score.

There's so many components to it; being able to conceptualise an idea to picture that other people understand/feel/get etc, being able to sell that idea to whoever is paying, being able to turn on creativity like a tap, being able deliver on time (way more difficult than you think), being able to completely adjust your ideas and composition when the director decides to make a new cut at the 11th hour (I've never been on even a small project where this didn't happen at least 3 times), being able to create various different ethnicities and themese of music.....

And these are just the main creative aspects, not to mention all the technical facets.

Again, I'm not trying to put anyone off, just that I've seen the industry chew up and spit out so many wide eyed producers and msuicans who listened to some Andy Blueman and thought "I could do that!".

Storyteller is right - you're actually way more likely to get in to through a super lucky connection, than you are if you're not at the top of your game.

the problem is that people that think they want to score don't understand what it actually is. And all those people trying to be hanz zimmer 15 years ago , well first off, umm fuck it i don't even know where to start.

And yes, your music means nothing depending on the route you take. For legal reasons, nobody will admit to listening to it, and if it is really that great, you start as a runner or if you have an education an orchestrator. there is no shortcuts. everyone starts the same way. You have to live in LA for film, NYC or LA for video games and TV. So if you don't plan to move, forget it.

goos luck .


And the jingle racket they have going, that is music for librairies. well unless are with the top companies, I can think of 2, you are getting 200$ a track. IF they like it. That isn't a route to a career. And those companies won't talk to you if you aren't represented. So it isn't really that easy. EDM is really the most simple way to make a name for your self. Branch out then.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Sep-30-2011 at 01:15

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney lol. as far as time spent and money made, this industry is not what you are looking for. Looking for a fast buck, play the stock market. Most composers do not start making a living until their 40s. That is when your career starts. But if you are a somewhat known pop act or EDM act, you can license a track and if the show is syndicated, it will make your beatport revenue make you go jesus titty christ.

ha ha but edm to me is boring to produce and so i dont ever plan on playing the marketing game or writting the next big hit for lady gaga.

i have taken on Bord what you guys have been saying it has been a eye opener so thanks.

There's a guy I know on Soundcloud who allegedly has a few relatively high profile placements (Swamp Wars, Americas Next Model etc). I'm generally fairly interested in score stuff anyway as it's part of my remit for this little hobby of mine.

One thing I've noticed, is that the score scene seems to be equally as formulaic as any form of EDM, at least at the small fry level. I mean this guy is technically excellent, but so boring it hurts.

On the flipside, Inception still ain't getting old.

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Originally posted by tehlord There's a guy I know on Soundcloud who allegedly has a few relatively high profile placements (Swamp Wars, Americas Next Model etc). I'm generally fairly interested in score stuff anyway as it's part of my remit for this little hobby of mine. One thing I've noticed, is that the score scene seems to be equally as formulaic as any form of EDM, at least at the small fry level. I mean this guy is technically excellent, but so boring it hurts. On the flipside, Inception still ain't getting old.

TIME great track i like to think if people want need music for somthing and you are making them type of tracks/songs you have catered to there needs.

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Originally posted by stewart.m ha ha but edm to me is boring to produce and so i dont ever plan on playing the marketing game or writting the next big hit for lady gaga. i have taken on Bord what you guys have been saying it has been a eye opener so thanks.

to succeed in that business, you will have to market yourself as well. Everything just gets harder. BaSically I would say if you can't make it in EDM and you gave it a very serious go, you won't really make it anywhere else. It is the easiest niche to get into and succeed.

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Originally posted by tehlord There's a guy I know on Soundcloud who allegedly has a few relatively high profile placements (Swamp Wars, Americas Next Model etc). I'm generally fairly interested in score stuff anyway as it's part of my remit for this little hobby of mine. One thing I've noticed, is that the score scene seems to be equally as formulaic as any form of EDM, at least at the small fry level. I mean this guy is technically excellent, but so boring it hurts. On the flipside, Inception still ain't getting old.

those types of underscores are the worst kind of music to ever have cursed this planet. Just awful. Hollywood churns out some shit but some of the stuff on TV. Yikes.

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