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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future
Re: Bombing Iraq

great another one of these political threads. :rollseyes: Look fastmp3 ur comments are very emotional and dont have a lot of thought or facts behind them.
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anyway my questions are :
-why don't he send some mega-marshal-sniper-pyroman from hollywood to get rid of him and install at least some democracy there ? and why instead of t to bomb the whooooooole country

I think u watch too many movies; u would need a large military force of over throw the regime and install a stable government like we're doing in Afghanistan. You act like we only need to knock off 20 ppl and everything would be ok. So I guess ur suggesting we send in small group of Special Forces like in Somalia, and have them ambushed killed and dragged thru the streets of Baghdad, I don’t think so.

I don’t know who told u we're carpet-bombing them, we're not. Now repeat after me strategic bombing yes, carpet-bombing no. The same type of bombing complaints was raised in Afghanistan. The whole world can sit back and pick apart everything we do. We're trying to put Sadam out of business the cleanest way possible but in the real world everything is complicated.

Finally, the main reason we're taking our time is, we're a democracy and bush is carefully gathering a consensus about how we should precede. If we were a dictatorship we would just act without thinking. I hope that not what you’re suggesting we do.


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Narcotic Mind
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel

if the US didn't support us the we might be dead by now, since the entire europe hates us or doesn't give a damn about us, other countries across the world are just unpluged, and the arabs are like 100 times bigger than us and probably wouldn't hasitate about attacking...

besides that, if the US didn't take apart of this situation, not that i agree with it's ways, but if it didn't, then nobody would stop iraq back in gulf war to develop mass destruction weapons, and nobody would fund any anti terrorist organizations and so on...

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SeeK
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Australia

Fuck i hate politics... Its all BS!!!!

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CortexBomb
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Watching the Waves under Red Skies on My World
Re: Re: Bombing Iraq

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Originally posted by tiesto14
and John Smith calls me dumb...LOL...dude Hussein has MILLIONS upon MILLIONS...he doenst care about his civilians...it is well know he murders his own civilians and in the recent past killed 5000 of them...he could care less about anyone in his country unless they are in the military,,,THATS A FACT..like it or not.


I'd bring up the other fact, that the States is the country that armed this dictator to begin with during the 80's, and that if his people really didn't like him that much they'd go about the business of overthrowing him themselves just like the people in South America are doing to US puppet dictators as I speak.

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it's very very very very simple......do you guys feel that America and most of the free world should just wait on our asses while Hussein gets his hands on nuclear weapons?...just recentley he has been trading with China and Korea in hopes of getting his hands on a nuke....and some analysts predict he should have one within a year.


And how much do you think the US government is paying these "experts"? The Iraqi economy has been crippled by the western economic sanctions...right now Saddam is trying to save face, and keep the country running, not develop weapons of mass destruction. He's been trading with the east to try and help get the economy rolling without the aid of the western governments...is he trying to get nuclear power plants installed? Yes...is that a threat to the United States of all places? No....

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NOW when he gets that nuclear weapon what do you think he wants to do with it?....well he wants to send it on over to America.


Even if he *did* have a nuclear weapon, and *did* want to commit suicide by attacking the United States (which it would be, he isn't *stupid* you know...) he doesn't have a deployment system...and last I knew customs doesn't allow people to just declare plutonium and head on through...

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SOOOOO NOW i ask you...should the U.S. sit by and wait for Hussein to attack on his terms? and with his weapons? which i will add will be nukes...thats what he has been trying to do for years upon years now. I mean you guyys can not be that dumb to beleive that Hussein is not trying to get nuclear wepaons to bomb America...can you.


As I've said, even if Saddam *did* get nuclear weapons he would still be almost zero threat to the States...he doesn't have the technology *or* the money to fund ICBM's, or any means of deployment that would threaten the States...if anything, the US allies in Europe are in the actual direct danger because of their proximity, and with the exception of Israel *they're not concerned*, which to me shows that the threat is almost nill...trust me, if there was a *real* threat I don't think places like Germany would be sitting around not worrying, since they'd be within the actual range of attack.

Saddam isn't a nice guy, don't get me wrong. But the US attacking Iraq would be yet another horrid decision by the Bush administration...they stand to gain nothing other than peace of mind for the paranoid young Bush, and in trade will lower the world-wide opinion of the country even further, and add to the growing ranks of potential terrorist recruits.

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tiesto14
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City
Re: Re: Re: Bombing Iraq

ok thats it....i was going to post some facts from good sources..but after reading that last post by Cortex i see it is pointless...

i will stick with my dumb attitude and blah blah...

not worth it anymore...u guys have your opinions however unbeleiveable they are and your not changing them...

but wait and watch as he gets those nukes...


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tiesto14
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

heres a QUOTE from Tony Blair on Hussein

quote:
"There is a threat from Saddam Hussein and the weapons of mass destruction that he has acquired. It is not in doubt at all."

http://asia.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/euro...1/cheney.blair/


even Tony Blair sees it...why dont you guys...OMG!!!


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BluNine
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Dallas, TX USA

tiesto14 is making more sense than anyone so far in this thread, besides maybe Az's comment (yes, you are correct). What, do you think Saddam is living in a cardboard box starving? Pleeease...hes sitting on billions. He has scores of palaces with enormous pools, indoor streams, and fountains. Fresh food is flown in for him weekly: shrimp, lobster, lean meat, and dairy products. He likes fine wine with his meals, and spends long hours reading every day in whichever office/palace him and his military leaders select for the day. Saddam lives now only to preserve his wealth and power.
btw, read my post on his arsenal:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15&pagenumber=9
by the way, saddam isn't just open to the public for a recon marine to come in and snipe him. saddam has excellent intelligence, driven by fear...and the man himself is extremely intelligent. some of you need to wake the fuck up and smell the roses. if the rest of the world wants to sit on their ass, then go ahead and do so, but i know i dont want my country being blown to shit and then in the aftermath "well damn, we shouldve done something, but now we're all glowing green with radioactivity."

p.s. - yes, we've established that bush has the IQ of a fly, but none the less...he isnt the only one running this country, and i have faith in colin powell. there's one damn good secretary of defense.


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_Marco_
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: In da club

i think they should drop bomb on irak.
thats all


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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

quote:
Originally posted by BluNine
hes sitting on billions. He has scores of palaces with enormous pools, indoor streams, and fountains. Fresh food is flown in for him weekly: shrimp, lobster, lean meat, and dairy products. He likes fine wine with his meals, and spends long hours reading every day in whichever office/palace him and his military leaders select for the day.


hmm.. what is your source for this information?

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith


hmm.. what is your source for this information?


OMG...now it's DEFINATLEY OFFICIAL...JohnSmith knows nothing...

i bet you think Osama Bin Laden is just a poor peasant who can't afford a plane...LoL

EVERYONE knows that Hussein is beyond wealthy....OMG...ur a joke dude...u bashed my opinions left and right...but now i see why...its because you just dont know.


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JohnSmith
Agent Smith



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

you are hillarious tiesto. i know nothing eh?

because i asked a guy what his source is? that's called research, you should try some once in a while, instead of just repeating what you hear on TV.

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