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Originally posted by pointPi Maybe I'm sounding too ignorant, but have you considered a pair of these?

Are you being serious?

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headphones are a perhaps cheaper alternative, but in saying that nothings beats the open space and having a room w sound. Iv decided to look into traps for behind my monitors as mentioned previously and then bass panel traps for my window. Then i shall proceed from there...

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I use my headphones for referencing and I listen to my masters on as many pieces of equipment as possible, so I'm not against headphones at all.

But those headphones........

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Originally posted by Energy_3 headphones are a perhaps cheaper alternative, but in saying that nothings beats the open space and having a room w sound. Iv decided to look into traps for behind my monitors as mentioned previously and then bass panel traps for my window. Then i shall proceed from there...

worth sending a mail off to GIK as well - extremely knowledgeable in this area and also very helpful guys, they will help you even if you dont end up buying anything from them

you should look into measuring your room response as well - that will tell you if you are making improvements when you add your treatment.

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Originally posted by evo8 worth sending a mail off to GIK as well - extremely knowledgeable in this area and also very helpful guys, they will help you even if you dont end up buying anything from them you should look into measuring your room response as well - that will tell you if you are making improvements when you add your treatment.

GIK did get back to me wanting some more information which i will send to them soon, the other question I have is how do i test for room response (google it) ?

Thanks chaps

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Originally posted by Acton I use my headphones for referencing and I listen to my masters on as many pieces of equipment as possible, so I'm not against headphones at all. But those headphones........

What he's saying is...

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Originally posted by CalvP Room EQ Wizard I use this cheap mic for the job: Behringer ECM8000 This guy has to be mentioned too as he offers some fantastic advice: Ethan Winer-Acoustic Treatment and Design for Recording Studios and Listening Rooms

Thanks Calv shall look into it. I will post a pic up of my studio soon too, revive the studio thread

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just installed the room treatments from gik acoustics few days ago.

definitely money well spent, ended up getting 2 sets of tritraps for the front corners of my room and 2 monster bass traps for the back, makes a huuuuge difference in what i hear. guessing games are over.

i suggest every bedroom producer reading this, before putting money down on a nice analog synth, or any new toy, get your room treated first. trust me, what you hear is a vital part on getting your tracks sounding pro.

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Looks like you're room is square which is an issue. My new room is about 3.4m x 3.6m which according to the guys at advancedacoustics-uk.com, I'd have a high risk of low end build up. They've recommended to put bass traps in all corners including horizontal traps between the walls and ceilings. Well that's all good but I'm renting the place where I live so I don't want to stick all that black stuff everywhere.

But at the moment, I'm in the proess of making my own bass traps and acoustic traps because it's a cheap option and a start. I'm plaining on hanging them on the wall like pictures so it shouldn't mess the landlords walls around too much. Gearslutz has a really good acoustics section.

Like others say, you'll never get a perfect room but if you can get 70% or more treated, then it should really help.

RealTraps has some useful info on positioning yourself and monitors and on acoustic panels etc http://realtraps.com/info.htm

the goal isn't to cover every friggin surface. 70% treatment ? What does that even mean. You need to understand what is happening in your room before you can fix the issues. Some things are pretty standard like the obvious first order reflections but just randomly putting cheap foam everywhere is not a great idea. You will just deaden the highs making everything sound flat while loads of low and mids are bouncing around. Foam is not broadband. So getting 1 inch foam and putting that everywhere is pointless.

get a mic and acoustic software and make a map of your room and the anaylsis for each section. Then you will have a very good idea of what is going on.

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Originally posted by sot just installed the room treatments from gik acoustics few days ago. definitely money well spent, ended up getting 2 sets of tritraps for the front corners of my room and 2 monster bass traps for the back, makes a huuuuge difference in what i hear. guessing games are over. i suggest every bedroom producer reading this, before putting money down on a nice analog synth, or any new toy, get your room treated first. trust me, what you hear is a vital part on getting your tracks sounding pro.

Sounds good! Simon I thought about making some up as well, as there is loads of info about on how to do etc, but you need to get it right the density otherwise its a big waste of time and money!

Im in a simular situation with renting, cant go sticking shit all over the place, well making any mods to the room. Sot, what thickness did you get for your traps etc from GIK?

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Ok maybe not 70% but i didn't refer to sticking it up randomly or just sticking 1inch foam everywhere. Yeah you could go the mic analysis route, up to you if you want.

Apparently, Rockwool RW3 in the UK is good stuff or that 703 stuff - Bass traps in the corners should be between 100/200mms thick and the acoustic (or reflective panels) should be 100m thick to get any decent results.

But i'm no expert, if it helps and sounds better then great - bonus. I'd rather spend £50 making it myself and testing it out in different spots in the room then spending fortunes of cash to find if it's a waste of time/effort.