theres a limit to it all, i like progressive! u may think not, but you think wrong if you do! why do you think i like matt hardwick etc. anyway, with progressive, it is easy to be blinded by what is god and what is not, because to an untrained ear it "all sounds the same" obviously it doesnt if you are into it. but some tracks with no realy structure, maybe a gimmicky effect or progressive "melody" to make it sound and attrctive track to the non prog listener! this stuff i hate! specially when there is so much quality stuff out there!

also (not having a dig @ u here TS but u have raised my point) people hold such stereotypical views about people who like dumonde/flutlicht/shokk!!! i have noticed this greatly. but at the end of the day their hard stuff greatly differs from you stereotypical hard, yet it is still viewd the same as other hard stuff? like for instance everything thing all i listen to his hardtrance which makes me laugh a lot



edit: also no offence to tech, but i think too many people think prog is a way forward from trance regardless. ive been in the prog pond and had a little paddle, now and then i like to dip my feet in again but i will never go for a swim!

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i dont hate progressive but i cant say i like it, i'd prefer sticking to trance

Difficult one for me LOL
But I think you think that I think that you only listen to hardtrance, no man and that's not true if u thought that.
You know I also listen to hardtrance and some tunes are really great!!!

Angelic Touchdown - Marinero (Nu Nrg Extended Mix)

damn I love this tune.
I maybe have the same view over every hardtrancefan. I dunno.
But thats mostly because of other things then the music they listen to.
See, I thought U are only open for trance and hardtrance, why u think that you think?
I see Tiesto with a cross etc, ive been reading a lot here on the forums and from what you read you get some kind of view of a person.
So I thought u hate tiesto and progressive or whatelse, I dont know what u think.
I can only know it if u posted it somewhere.
This is the first time I see u post something good about progressive.
Kewl
No...u see I can only judge on what view I have on a person...


damn im wasting my time really bad now

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker Difficult one for me LOL But I think you think that I think that you only listen to hardtrance,

sorry, found that funny

Progressive is grrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeat!



Now, time to sort out some new release. My hard drive is a mess.

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker Difficult one for me LOL But I think you think that I think that you only listen to hardtrance, no man and that's not true if u thought that.

no no no, i meant in general, i just used your comment as a reference point

i have had it many a time "oh you would say that because you like dumonde yada yada" it just happens all the time and people dont understand, maybe they wil if they see my hardwick addict, but then again i dont think too many peopel care for matt outside of gatecrasher or the UK!

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR no no no, i meant in general, i just used your comment as a reference point i have had it many a time "oh you would say that because you like dumonde yada yada" it just happens all the time and people dont understand, maybe they wil if they see my hardwick addict, but then again i dont think too many peopel care for matt outside of gatecrasher or the UK!

People are judged easily like that it's true.
But mostly because they don't talk about other then hardtrance.
btw OMFG listening to sasha at san francisko now
Illuminatus - hope aaaarghhh
just off-topic , i had to write it hehehe.

So I said because they dont talk much about other trance tunes.
Maybe Im wrong here, dunno.

About Matt Hardwick, I agree I dunno much about the guy(I love that fusion feat matt hw. - spectrum track though...), it would be exactly the same if I said I love Dj Jan from Illusion.
U dont know him either .
There's the factor of being well known.
Well Jan and Matt didn't do that much for trance then other well known dj's. Or they havent got the luck like Tiesto and PVD and Oakey and.... to become a legend.

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Most of us start by listening to cheesy eurodance and move to the typical trance and then you advance to progressive.

"ADVANCE" suggests that Progressive is the ultimate goal, the highest and best genre, the thing we should all reach to eventually. And I disagree, not because i dislike prog (the contrary is the case) but because i wont accept such a biased and intolerant view on the subject. As long as its not OBVIOUSLY and totally commercial music (with the dollars, not the spirit as a background for production) every music is equal to me. Its all a piece of art waiting to be either hated or loved by the listeners. No such thing as Level A and level B music. Just wanted to add that to the discussion

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker You laugh with people who like cheese, progressive fans laugh exactly the same with you.

...and techno fans laugh at all of you. yes we do

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Maybe it's just that some people confuse "progressive" with other genres, or maybe people have different definitions of progressive. For instance, I know some people that believe a song with no vocals makes it progressive.

Last edited by cbxzcm on Aug-24-2002 at 01:41

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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 I never used to like progressive but lately I've goten into it. I'll admit that it takes an advanced ear to listen to it though...it's kinda weird how things go in this genre. Most of us start by listening to cheesy eurodance and move to the typical trance and then you advance to progressive.

I admit Ive had the same. I was originally into Goa and Techno, before Uplifting trance came out. Then got primarily into Uplifting trance, and couldnt stand the progressive stuff. But for the past 4 or 5 months I cant get enough of the stuff. I thinks is a combination of my musical tastes evolving, and the sound of progressive evolving. I never knocked it (or at least dont remember if I did), and try not to put down anything else either, cause if it has been released, or put on radio, someone out there likes it.

Progressive isnt the final outcome, neither is Goa or Uplifting trance. Its just another sound. All musical genres will evolve to provide a fresh sound to its listeners, and we must be open to such change.

Even threads like Tiesto, or Oakenfold or whoever sucks now are lame, because we have to respect the artists that contributed so much to the scene. For underground music to have a following, it has to have a mainstream component, or else it will have no fan base. Although people may not like the way Tiesto, or Oakie, or another DJ sound now, they shouldnt flame them.

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