jesus man, fucking wall of text. And I think you answered your own question:

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Some of my better more unique sounds are not from nexus or even pro presets they are soundfonts I made myself a while back that I layered in chainer. Isn't that interesting? My best sounds are ones I actually layered myself.

i know right, thats why he's a cocksucker

I've never once seen a finished track by you, dude, just pump out tracks and quit worrying so much. It's what I do, and it's working for me so far.

I really do think you have way too much shit, too, I have like 3 sample packs, a few VSTi's and a handful of soundfonts and stuff, and I never have trouble finding sounds that work. The more crap you download, the more crap you have to sort through before you find something you like. And the longer you spend looking, the more fatigued your ears get, soon nothing sounds too good.

Ever listen to a track, think "holy shit, this is awesome", and then after 100 listens you realize it's not as great as you thought? you seem to do that with everything you make, which means the only way you'll ever be happy with your own work is if 1) you don't dissect it completely, or 2) everything you make is flawless. You'd be better off doing the former, the latter is probably never going to happen but you'll get a lot closer if you quit worrying so much. It's not as paradoxical as it sounds.

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Originally posted by Kysora I've never once seen a finished track by you, dude, just pump out tracks and quit worrying so much. It's what I do, and it's working for me so far. I really do think you have way too much shit, too, I have like 3 sample packs, a few VSTi's and a handful of soundfonts and stuff, and I never have trouble finding sounds that work. The more crap you download, the more crap you have to sort through before you find something you like. And the longer you spend looking, the more fatigued your ears get, soon nothing sounds too good. Ever listen to a track, think "holy shit, this is awesome", and then after 100 listens you realize it's not as great as you thought? you seem to do that with everything you make, which means the only way you'll ever be happy with your own work is if 1) you don't dissect it completely, or 2) everything you make is flawless. You'd be better off doing the former, the latter is probably never going to happen but you'll get a lot closer if you quit worrying so much. It's not as paradoxical as it sounds.

I got to stop keeping things on loop because its a vibe killer.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

That's the one thing I miss about my old computer, I could barely hear what I was writing after the first minute or so was done. I could only listen when I exported it, so I'd listen to the track maybe 10-15 times before it was finished, if that.. listening to stuff on loop was out of the question.

er, well, I guess I don't miss that at all.

you really have yo learn how to take basic samples and turn them into extravagant sounds to perfectly suit your track's needs.

with the right EQing, sequencing, and use of effects, most samples will sound right

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Originally posted by Kysora That's the one thing I miss about my old computer, I could barely hear what I was writing after the first minute or so was done. I could only listen when I exported it, so I'd listen to the track maybe 10-15 times before it was finished, if that.. listening to stuff on loop was out of the question. er, well, I guess I don't miss that at all.

Haha, is your new stuff better or worse in your opinion?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

Well I thought this sounded pretty damn amazing when I made it. Here's my newest track

Pretty impressive for two years, I'd say.

You over analyse everthing. You tear pro tracks apart and focus on one element (usually a mid bass) and claim how excellent it sounds. Or how the kick in a pro track sounds amazing. You spend hours upon hours trying to get the perfect kick, the perfect mid bass layer.

Your approach is all wrong. Stop fucking about and just make some tunes. Individual elements can sound shit if you isolate them and analyse them. But how do they sound in the context of the track? This is what CHOOSING THE RIGHT SOUNDS is about. One or two decent sample packs will have all you need. You are never satisfied with samples from any sample pack because you lack the ability to see the bigger picture and instead focus on each element in isolation. So you are never happy. You think you need more sample packs to make sure that you have the RIGHT sounds. You spend hours auditioning hundreds of samples, none sounding quite right to you. They are too plastic, too woody, too squelchy, too harsh.

You apply this insanse process to your bass lines, your leads, your FX.

Stop thinking about the parts and think about the whole.

Once and for all, stop fucking about and just make some fucking music.

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Robby I actually just threw out loads of samples and synths, and even got rid of a load of Cubase stock sounds and samples, and I have hardly anything to work with now as I just prefer it this way.

I'm far from great but if you check out this track all the sounds are home made - that is to say samples I've tweaked and home grown synth patches.
Nem added some sounds too and he has a similarly basic set up.

I'm not saying it's a great track I'm just trying to demonstrate you need only 2 or 3 sample packs and a couple of synths and you can come up with quite a pallete.


The Walk to Endtimes - your bits in and new mix by Dirtbox Divas

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Last edited by Richard Butler on Nov-05-2011 at 13:59

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Originally posted by Kysora Well I thought this sounded pretty damn amazing when I made it. Here's my newest track Pretty impressive for two years, I'd say.

I love hearing little melos for build ups.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.